Mr. Tim Wise

Tim Wise: A Big Mouth With A Bigger Nose (6/17/2005)
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Tim Wise: A Big Mouth With A Bigger Nose
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Leftwing race activist (and self-flagellating white male) Tim Wise is a piece of work.
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Many of the subjects, like Mr. Wise, are too insignificant to justify the allocation of substantial resources to track down everything they have written or said.While we make every effort to check and double check our entries, occasional factual errors are inevitable.In addition, interpretations of indisputable facts are often debatable.Leftwing watchdog sites like MediaMatters and RightWingWatch, to take two examples, regularly portray policy differences with the left (opposition to racial preferences is a good example) as racism, which it is not.Tim Wise is virtuoso at this.Yet if a target of such a smear, posing as a judgment call, should email these sites to complain, they would get no redress.

On Tuesday, Tim Wise discovered that we adhere to a higher standard and are willing to make adjustments in our judgment calls, even for political opponents who have smeared us in the past and (as it turned out) are about to smear us again.

The correction which Mr. Wise was seeking through his email - and the only correction he asked for (an important point, as we shall see in a moment) -- was a matter of judgment, not fact.We had referred to Mr. Wise's "meager academic credentials" for the heights he had attained as a public speaker and recently as an adjunct professor at Smith College.Mr. Wise characterized our comment as "rather snide."We looked at the text he was complaining about and within minutes gave him the call.The change was made on DiscoverTheNetworks within an hour or so and the offending phrase eliminated from the profile, along with the characterization of Mr. Wise as a "failed academic."

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Since our generosity to Wise became the preface for a full-scale attack on us by him the very next day on CounterPunch.org, we include here the full text of Wise's email to us the afternoon before.The email was sent to FrontPagemag.com managing editor Jamie Glazov because Wise had previously been invited by FrontPage to participate in a symposium edited by Jamie (on the other hand, no similar invitations have come from leftwing sites to FrontPage writers):
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Wise was notified of these changes in an email that read, "Your point about your DTN profile is well taken, and we have corrected it"; in the "Corrections" section of DTN, we noted the changes that had been made.

Wise responded to these gestures with a vitriolic three-thousand word attack on DiscoverTheNetworks and its creator David Horowitz.
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In other words, not only was Tim Wise not interested in the truth about our standards and intentions, he actively feared the truth and wanted to suppress it.That is why he was included in the first place in a database on the left.

Here is how Wise acknowledges, in the midst of his diatribe against us, the fact that we made the aforementioned changes which he requested: "The very next morning, to Glazov's credit, but also indicating the sliminess of the enterprise (given that I had to point out the irony of the critique myself before anything was done about it), the ‘failed academic' reference was gone."In other words 1) we should have agreed with his judgment of himself in the first place, and 2) by acknowledging that we may have been hasty in disagreeing so rudely with his high opinion of himself we confirmed (in his eyes) our "sliminess."This is called damned if you do and damned if you don't.Which is exactly the way leftists see everyone they oppose.

Like every other intellectually challenged leftist from Michael Berube to Salon's John Gorenfeld who has criticized DiscoverTheNetworks.org, Wise accuses the site (falsely) of "painting everyone to the left of Joe Lieberman as some kind of subversive."
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Wise either read them and didn't understand them or - more likely - simply ignored them.As we have seen, when facts get in the way of his argument, his impulse is to bury them.

If Wise has an argument challenging our characterization of the spectrum that includes all these individuals, he should make it.
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Perhaps Wise thinks Katie Couric and Tom Brokaw are Republicans.
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In attacking DiscoverTheNetworks, Wise climbs a high horse to pretend outrage at our association of Zarqawi with some factions of the left.Yet the article is posted on a leftwing site that supports the "Fallujah resistance" - Zarqawi and friends - as the "liberators" of Iraq.Such are the standards of the critic himself.His objection to linking American leftists with Islamic radicals would be more credible if he had explained George Galloway's proclamation that such an alliance exists and is desirable, or the rantings of Nicholas DeGenova, Robert Jensen, Ward Churchill and other heroes of CounterPunch.org calling for America's defeat in the war on terror and calling that "just desserts."

Like most leftists, Wise does not understand the meaning of accountability, as in being accountable for one's actions.Thus his little profile on DiscoverTheNetworks.org mentions that he opposed the toppling of Saddam Hussein, a fact which he doesn't deny but nonetheless objects to our revealing."Never missing an opportunity to smear by association," Wise writes, "DTN notes that I opposed the war in Iraq, which of course they characterize as my opposing the toppling of Saddam Hussein.
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They then insert a link to Hussein in my bio, as if to imply a connection between us . . ." No, in fact, we inserted the link to a profile of Saddam for people who may have forgotten what a monster Saddam was (easy enough when Wise and his friends are obliterating the meaning of language by describing America's cozy set-up for terrorists at Guantanamo as "today's gulag."
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Wise's writings are rich in assertions that whites harbor deep-seated hatred of blacks in their hearts; he condemns "the seeds of pure evil planted deep in every one of us [white people] by our culture.""Better to blame the dark-skinned for our [whites'] hardship," he has written, "since we can take it for granted that they're powerless to do anything about it.Whites, as it turns out, take most everything for granted in this country; which makes perfect sense, because dominant groups usually have that privilege."

On another occasion, Wise lamented "just how shallow white America's commitment to racial equity really was."He decried "the process of ‘white bonding' that goes on when white folks who don't know each other that well are in an all-white setting, and issues of race come up.Whether it's in a cab, a bar, a park, a restaurant, or a college dorm room, whites almost instinctively assume every other white person in the room thinks just the way they do, and proceed to cut loose with any number of racial diatribes: about ‘those people' on welfare; ‘those people' coming across the border; ‘those people' who will shoot you at the drop of a hat."In sum: "[B]y and large, white America doesn't really want racial equity."

Wise supports race preferences because he believes that whites' inherent bigotry, and their natural impulse to oppress minorities, is so profound that proactive steps must be taken to neutralize it, lest it run amok."Indeed," he says, "persons of color know well that they will likely have to work twice as hard to get half as far or be considered half as good as whites; and they have known that since long before affirmative action came around.But at least with affirmative action they get the chance to work twice as hard and demonstrate their capabilities."

He says that whites must work hard "individually and collectively to overcome that which is always beneath the surface; to overcome the tendency to cash in the chips which represent the perquisites of whiteness; to traffic in privileges--not the least of which is the privilege of feeling superior to others--not because of what or who they are, but rather because of what you're not: in this case, not a nigger. . . . Fact is nigger is still the first word on most white people's mind when they see a black man being taken off to jail on the evening news.The first thing we think when we see Mike Tyson, Louis Farrakhan, or O.J. Simpson (as in ‘that murdering nigger')."Well, maybe Tim Wise thinks this way.We don't.

Wise objects to the fact that his profile states the following: "In an e-mail exchange with David Horowitz, Wise maintained that the increase in the prosperity of the black middle class, when compared to the white middle class...is essentially a meaningless statistical trick."
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Wise also objects to the DTN reference to his "rabid anti-Catholicism."Yet this is what he himself wrote on May 31, 2004:
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Wise: "DTN then claims, derisively, that I have compared America's founding fathers to the Afghan Mujahadeen, which of course was not my work, but that of Ronald Reagan, who h

(5) One of the individuals profiled in our database, Tim Wise, wrote to complain that his profile contained what he called a "rather snide" declaration that he had "meager academic credentials" with "only" a B.A. degree.He pointed out that people who do not possess a Master's degree or a Ph.D. may still be very capable of making valid points.We agreed that this, in itself, was a valid point, and we thus immediately removed the words to which he objected. (To put in context the assertions originally made in the profile: At the time of its writing, Wise was slated to work as an adjunct professor at the School for Social Work at Smith College."Ordinarily," the profile noted, " adjunct professors at reputable schools possess at least a Master's degree; Ph.D.s are preferred.")

In addition, Mr. Wise later informed us that the year of his birth was 1968 (not 1969, as his DTN profile originally stated).

From this book, students are assigned readings by radical feminists Peggy McIntosh and bell hooks, as well as Marxist journalism professor Robert Jensen, along with radical race activist Tim Wise.

Tim Wise: A Big Mouth With A Bigger Nose
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Left-wing race activist (and self-flagellating white male) Tim Wise is a piece of work.
...
Many of the subjects, like Mr. Wise, are too insignificant to justify the allocation of substantial resources to track down everything they have written or said.While we make every effort to check and double check our entries, occasional factual errors are inevitable.In addition, interpretations of indisputable facts are often debatable.Left-wing watchdog sites like MediaMatters and RightWingWatch, to take two examples, regularly portray policy differences with the left (opposition to racial preferences is a good example) as racism, which it is not.Tim Wise is virtuoso at this.Yet if a target of such a smear, posing as a judgment call, should email these sites to complain, they would get no redress.

On Tuesday, Tim Wise discovered that we adhere to a higher standard and are willing to make adjustments in our judgment calls, even for political opponents who have smeared us in the past and (as it turned out) are about to smear us again.

The correction which Mr. Wise was seeking through his email - and the only correction he asked for (an important point, as we shall see in a moment) -- was a matter of judgment, not fact.We had referred to Mr. Wise's "meager academic credentials" for the heights he had attained as a public speaker and recently as an adjunct professor at an Ivy League college.Mr. Wise characterized our comment as "rather snide."We looked at the text he was complaining about and within minutes gave him the call.The change was made on DiscoverTheNetworks within an hour or so and the offending phrase eliminated from the profile, along with the characterization of Mr. Wise as a "failed academic."

Since our generosity to Wise became the preface for a full-scale attack on us by him the very next day on CounterPunch.org, we include here the full text of Wise's email to us the afternoon before.The email was sent to FrontPagemag.com managing editor Jamie Glazov because Wise had previously been invited by FrontPage to participate in a symposium edited by Jamie (on the other hand, no similar invitations have come from left-wing sites to FrontPage writers):
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Wise was notified of these changes in an email that read, "Your point about your DTN profile is well taken, and we have corrected it"; in the "Corrections" section of DTN, we noted the changes that had been made.

Wise responded to these gestures with a vitriolic three-thousand word attack on DiscoverTheNetworks and its creator David Horowitz.
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In other words, not only was Tim Wise not interested in the truth about our standards and intentions, he actively feared the truth and wanted to suppress it.That is why he was included in the first place in a database on the left.

Here is how Wise acknowledges, in the midst of his diatribe against us, the fact that we made the aforementioned changes which he requested: "The very next morning, to Glazov's credit, but also indicating the sliminess of the enterprise (given that I had to point out the irony of the critique myself before anything was done about it), the ‘failed academic' reference was gone."In other words 1) we should have agreed with his judgment of himself in the first place, and 2) by acknowledging that we may have been hasty in disagreeing so rudely with his high opinion of himself we confirmed (in his eyes) our "sliminess."This is called damned if you do and damned if you don't.Which is exactly the way leftists see everyone they oppose.

Like every other intellectually challenged leftist from Michael Berube to Salon's Josh Gorenfeld who has criticized DiscoverTheNetworks.org, Wise accuses the site (falsely) of "painting everyone to the left of Joe Lieberman as some kind of subversive."
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Wise either read them and didn't understand them or - more likely - simply ignored them.As we have seen, when facts get in the way of his argument, his impulse is to bury them.

If Wise has an argument challenging our characterization of the spectrum that includes all these individuals, he should make it.
...
Perhaps Wise thinks Katie Couric and Tom Brokaw are Republicans.
...
In attacking DiscoverTheNetworks, Wise climbs a high horse to pretend outrage at our association of Zarqawi with some factions of the left.Yet the article is posted on a left-wing site that supports the "Fallujah resistance" - Zarqawi and friends - as the "liberators" of Iraq.Such are the standards of the critic himself.His objection to linking American leftists with Islamic radicals would be more credible if he had explained George Galloway's proclamation that such an alliance exists and is desirable, or the rantings of Nicholas DeGenova, Robert Jensen, Ward Churchill and other heroes of CounterPunch.org calling for America's defeat in the war on terror and calling that "just desserts."

Like most leftists, Wise does not understand the meaning of accountability, as in being accountable for one's actions.Thus his little profile on DiscoverTheNetworks.org mentions that he opposed the toppling of Saddam Hussein, a fact which he doesn't deny but nonetheless objects to our revealing."Never missing an opportunity to smear by association," Wise writes, "DTN notes that I opposed the war in Iraq, which of course they characterize as my opposing the toppling of Saddam Hussein.
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They then insert a link to Hussein in my bio, as if to imply a connection between us . . ." No, in fact, we inserted the link to a profile of Saddam for people who may have forgotten what a monster Saddam was (easy enough when Wise and his friends are obliterating the meaning of language by describing America's cozy set-up for terrorists at Guantanamo as "today's gulag."
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Wise's writings are rich in assertions that whites harbor deep-seated hatred of blacks in their hearts; he condemns "the seeds of pure evil planted deep in every one of us [white people] by our culture.""Better to blame the dark-skinned for our [whites'] hardship," he has written, "since we can take it for granted that they're powerless to do anything about it.Whites, as it turns out, take most everything for granted in this country; which makes perfect sense, because dominant groups usually have that privilege."

On another occasion, Wise lamented "just how shallow white America's commitment to racial equity really was."He decried "the process of ‘white bonding' that goes on when white folks who don't know each other that well are in an all-white setting, and issues of race come up.Whether it's in a cab, a bar, a park, a restaurant, or a college dorm room, whites almost instinctively assume every other white person in the room thinks just the way they do, and proceed to cut loose with any number of racial diatribes: about ‘those people' on welfare; ‘those people' coming across the border; ‘those people' who will shoot you at the drop of a hat."In sum: "[B]y and large, white America doesn't really want racial equity."

Wise supports race preferences because he believes that whites' inherent bigotry, and their natural impulse to oppress minorities, is so profound that proactive steps must be taken to neutralize it, lest it run amok."Indeed," he says, "persons of color know well that they will likely have to work twice as hard to get half as far or be considered half as good as whites; and they have known that since long before affirmative action came around.But at least with affirmative action they get the chance to work twice as hard and demonstrate their capabilities."

He says that whites must work hard "individually and collectively to overcome that which is always beneath the surface; to overcome the tendency to cash in the chips which represent the perquisites of whiteness; to traffic in privileges--not the least of which is the privilege of feeling superior to others--not because of what or who they are, but rather because of what you're not: in this case, not a nigger. . . . Fact is nigger is still the first word on most white people's mind when they see a black man being taken off to jail on the evening news.The first thing we think when we see Mike Tyson, Louis Farrakhan, or O.J. Simpson (as in ‘that murdering nigger')."Well, maybe Tim Wise thinks this way.We don't.

Wise objects to the fact that his profile states the following: "In an e-mail exchange with David Horowitz, Wise maintained that the increase in the prosperity of the black middle class, when compared to the white middle class...is essentially a meaningless statistical trick."

Tim Wise: A Big Mouth With A Bigger Nose
...
Tim Wise: A Big Mouth With A Bigger Nose
...
Leftwing race activist (and self-flagellating white male) Tim Wise is a piece of work.
...
Many of the subjects, like Mr. Wise, are too insignificant to justify the allocation of substantial resources to track down everything they have written or said.While we make every effort to check and double check our entries, occasional factual errors are inevitable.In addition, interpretations of indisputable facts are often debatable.Leftwing watchdog sites like MediaMatters and RightWingWatch, to take two examples, regularly portray policy differences with the left (opposition to racial preferences is a good example) as racism, which it is not.Tim Wise is virtuoso at this.Yet if a target of such a smear, posing as a judgment call, should email these sites to complain, they would get no redress.

On Tuesday, Tim Wise discovered that we adhere to a higher standard and are willing to make adjustments in our judgment calls, even for political opponents who have smeared us in the past and (as it turned out) are about to smear us again.

The correction which Mr. Wise was seeking through his email - and the only correction he asked for (an important point, as we shall see in a moment) -- was a matter of judgment, not fact.We had referred to Mr. Wise's "meager academic credentials" for the heights he had attained as a public speaker and recently as an adjunct professor at Smith College.Mr. Wise characterized our comment as "rather snide."We looked at the text he was complaining about and within minutes gave him the call.The change was made on DiscoverTheNetworks within an hour or so and the offending phrase eliminated from the profile, along with the characterization of Mr. Wise as a "failed academic."

.

Since our generosity to Wise became the preface for a full-scale attack on us by him the very next day on CounterPunch.org, we include here the full text of Wise's email to us the afternoon before.The email was sent to FrontPagemag.com managing editor Jamie Glazov because Wise had previously been invited by FrontPage to participate in a symposium edited by Jamie (on the other hand, no similar invitations have come from leftwing sites to FrontPage writers):
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Wise was notified of these changes in an email that read, "Your point about your DTN profile is well taken, and we have corrected it"; in the "Corrections" section of DTN, we noted the changes that had been made.

Wise responded to these gestures with a vitriolic three-thousand word attack on DiscoverTheNetworks and its creator David Horowitz.
...
In other words, not only was Tim Wise not interested in the truth about our standards and intentions, he actively feared the truth and wanted to suppress it.That is why he was included in the first place in a database on the left.

Here is how Wise acknowledges, in the midst of his diatribe against us, the fact that we made the aforementioned changes which he requested: "The very next morning, to Glazov's credit, but also indicating the sliminess of the enterprise (given that I had to point out the irony of the critique myself before anything was done about it), the ‘failed academic' reference was gone."In other words 1) we should have agreed with his judgment of himself in the first place, and 2) by acknowledging that we may have been hasty in disagreeing so rudely with his high opinion of himself we confirmed (in his eyes) our "sliminess."This is called damned if you do and damned if you don't.Which is exactly the way leftists see everyone they oppose.

Like every other intellectually challenged leftist from Michael Berube to Salon's John Gorenfeld who has criticized DiscoverTheNetworks.org, Wise accuses the site (falsely) of "painting everyone to the left of Joe Lieberman as some kind of subversive."
...
Wise either read them and didn't understand them or - more likely - simply ignored them.As we have seen, when facts get in the way of his argument, his impulse is to bury them.

If Wise has an argument challenging our characterization of the spectrum that includes all these individuals, he should make it.
...
Perhaps Wise thinks Katie Couric and Tom Brokaw are Republicans.
...
In attacking DiscoverTheNetworks, Wise climbs a high horse to pretend outrage at our association of Zarqawi with some factions of the left.Yet the article is posted on a leftwing site that supports the "Fallujah resistance" - Zarqawi and friends - as the "liberators" of Iraq.Such are the standards of the critic himself.His objection to linking American leftists with Islamic radicals would be more credible if he had explained George Galloway's proclamation that such an alliance exists and is desirable, or the rantings of Nicholas DeGenova, Robert Jensen, Ward Churchill and other heroes of CounterPunch.org calling for America's defeat in the war on terror and calling that "just desserts."

Like most leftists, Wise does not understand the meaning of accountability, as in being accountable for one's actions.Thus his little profile on DiscoverTheNetworks.org mentions that he opposed the toppling of Saddam Hussein, a fact which he doesn't deny but nonetheless objects to our revealing."Never missing an opportunity to smear by association," Wise writes, "DTN notes that I opposed the war in Iraq, which of course they characterize as my opposing the toppling of Saddam Hussein.
...
They then insert a link to Hussein in my bio, as if to imply a connection between us . . ." No, in fact, we inserted the link to a profile of Saddam for people who may have forgotten what a monster Saddam was (easy enough when Wise and his friends are obliterating the meaning of language by describing America's cozy set-up for terrorists at Guantanamo as "today's gulag."
...
Wise's writings are rich in assertions that whites harbor deep-seated hatred of blacks in their hearts; he condemns "the seeds of pure evil planted deep in every one of us [white people] by our culture.""Better to blame the dark-skinned for our [whites'] hardship," he has written, "since we can take it for granted that they're powerless to do anything about it.Whites, as it turns out, take most everything for granted in this country; which makes perfect sense, because dominant groups usually have that privilege."

On another occasion, Wise lamented "just how shallow white America's commitment to racial equity really was."He decried "the process of ‘white bonding' that goes on when white folks who don't know each other that well are in an all-white setting, and issues of race come up.Whether it's in a cab, a bar, a park, a restaurant, or a college dorm room, whites almost instinctively assume every other white person in the room thinks just the way they do, and proceed to cut loose with any number of racial diatribes: about ‘those people' on welfare; ‘those people' coming across the border; ‘those people' who will shoot you at the drop of a hat."In sum: "[B]y and large, white America doesn't really want racial equity."

Wise supports race preferences because he believes that whites' inherent bigotry, and their natural impulse to oppress minorities, is so profound that proactive steps must be taken to neutralize it, lest it run amok."Indeed," he says, "persons of color know well that they will likely have to work twice as hard to get half as far or be considered half as good as whites; and they have known that since long before affirmative action came around.But at least with affirmative action they get the chance to work twice as hard and demonstrate their capabilities."

He says that whites must work hard "individually and collectively to overcome that which is always beneath the surface; to overcome the tendency to cash in the chips which represent the perquisites of whiteness; to traffic in privileges--not the least of which is the privilege of feeling superior to others--not because of what or who they are, but rather because of what you're not: in this case, not a nigger. . . . Fact is nigger is still the first word on most white people's mind when they see a black man being taken off to jail on the evening news.The first thing we think when we see Mike Tyson, Louis Farrakhan, or O.J. Simpson (as in ‘that murdering nigger')."Well, maybe Tim Wise thinks this way.We don't.

Wise objects to the fact that his profile states the following: "In an e-mail exchange with David Horowitz, Wise maintained that the increase in the prosperity of the black middle class, when compared to the white middle class...is essentially a meaningless statistical trick."
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Wise also objects to the DTN reference to his "rabid anti-Catholicism."Yet this is what he himself wrote on May 31, 2004:
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Wise: "DTN then claims, derisively, that I have compared America's founding fathers to the Afghan Mujahadeen, which of course was not my work, but that of Ronald Reagan, who had a habit of labeling terrorists (like the Muj or the Nicaraguan contras) ‘freedom fighters,' and then likening them to Washington crossing the Delaware."

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