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Can we please do away with the w***ker rule? (6) 15. [Jeff, Dave] Sensei vs.
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Any further questions? ^ ^ --Hida Gongoro Crab Clan Diplomat * Samurai * Shireikan -- /-\ ** Jeff Williamson ### Lightfall Interactive ### Evanston, IL ** /-\ |A| O o docangst@enteract.com ^ ^ ACen HomePage: http://www.acen.org/ |2| |C| *==> This is your life, and it's ending one minute at a time.Subject: Re: Hantei sensei= death of Enlightenment? > With the release of Hantei sensei in Fire and Shadow and the >recent defining of "Rise from Ashes" as political are we going to >see enlightenment victories become extinct?Nope.
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The rest of you should, too. -chelle ================================================= From: Andrew Heckt Regardless, all of you and us have decided that Jeff *is* the *final* authority.If you are going to disagree with the recognized final authority on matter, do not ask for official answers.The *only* person who can change Jeff's ruling is Dave - Jeff is the only person Dave will let change his rulings.We've all agreed to that *long* ago.
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Jon Paulson Subject: [Jeff, Dave] Sensei vs.
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Rules Q If your name is not Dave or Jeff and if you are not an employee of WOTC... please for the love of God, DO NOT!!!! respond to this, there are enough post about peoples opinions already, thank you.
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But, as I added before the part I quoted from Jeff, Tamori's controller had a Fortress of the Dragonfly in play, boosting it to 1F/3C.Besides, we're nit-picking.Without the Fortress Tamori becomes a 5F/-2C dead guy anyway.Kitsu Shigeru Lion Clan Filker * Experienced ------------------------------ Date:
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Heckts Subject: Re: [Jeff, Dave] Sensei vs.
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Rules Q > If your name is not Dave or Jeff and if you are not an employee of WOTC... > please for the love of God, DO NOT!!!! respond to this, there are enough > post about peoples opinions already, thank you. > > The general ruling is that stronghold effects override other cards.. now > since sensei's are considered part of the stronghold (while in play) does > that mean they likewise override in such instances?
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Jeff!
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Generally Jeff's rulings are like this >> occasionally they are not. >Well, no one got uptight when Jeff did the exact same thing with Touching the >Void last expansion.Same sort of situation, same type of ruling made.Much >less reaction.If you accept it the first time, it's a lot easier to try and >slip it by the second and third times.Ummm..I did.I get concerned every single time I see a "ruling" made in flagrant violation of the card text and the rulebook text.Touching the Void cannot be solved by a "ruling", it required "errata".It still annoys me INTENSELY that Jeff has put neither Touching the Void nor Flattery in the "Text Change and Errata" list despite the fact that there are rulings on those cards that clearly violate the text of the cards. (Flattery's is "You must discard either enough total focus to end the battle or your entire hand. [DW, personal correspondence, 10/22/98]").The reason that I did not pursue the Touching the Void situation as heavily as have some others, is I fully believe that Touching the Void would be abusive without the "ruling" that should be errata.I mentioned it once, but I only make a BIG stink about the rulings that are in direct conflict with the card wording, AND that I feel are either unnecessary or counterproductive when compared to the actual ruling that would be made by an educated individual reading the card and interpreting it via the rulebook and past precedent. (ex Hida Amoro and Kage/Ratling Sensei). +--Shinjo Ryuteki-- Unicorn Clan Champion * Crabby Crab Clan Iaijutsu Master * "Your Clan" Ratling Hunter * Woolly Maggot Clan Instigator ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------- "Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines!" YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET!Juno now offers FREE Internet Access!Try it today - there's no risk!For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date:
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Gaijin Monk Subject: Re: [Jeff, Dave] Sensei vs.
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Rules Q On Wed, 22 Mar 2000 21:11:26 EST Jon Paulson writes: >If your name is not Dave or Jeff and if you are not an employee of >WOTC... >please for the love of God, DO NOT!!!! respond to this, there are >enough >post about peoples opinions already, thank you. > If you want private replies, don't post on a public board.
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Send your e-mail privately to Dave and/or Jeff then.
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Remember, Jeff's a rules lawyer, too.He's just one of the good guys. > Thanks for your insights and inspiration Vaughn.Ack!
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Clarifications have explination. > > A ruling expands the rules of the game - which Jeff is extremely careful to > try not to do - he's not the designer, he doesn't have the right. > > What Jeff would like to say, but can't is likely he can see both sides of > the arguement and sees the logic of both.Therefor "Lies, lies, lies... > needs to be errataed to say X" to clarify its intent. > > But he can't errata cards - Only Dave can. > > So he makes a ruling and tells Dave to errata the card.
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" and ". It still annoys me INTENSELY that Jeff has put neither Touching the Void nor Flattery in the "Text Change and Errata" list despite the fact that there are rulings on those cards that clearly violate the text of the cards.
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Everyone who "stops Sanzo" before the contest ends tomorrow is entered into the drawing for the full F&S set, which happens on 3/31. --Hida Gongoro Crab Clan Diplomat * Samurai * Shireikan -- /-\ ** Jeff Williamson ### Lightfall Interactive ### Evanston, IL ** /-\ |A| O o docangst@enteract.com ^ ^ ACen HomePage: http://www.acen.org/ |2| |C| *==> This is your life, and it's ending one minute at a time.
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You're still entered for the drawing, though. --Hida Gongoro Crab Clan Diplomat * Samurai * Shireikan -- /-\ ** Jeff Williamson ### Lightfall Interactive ### Evanston, IL ** /-\ |A| O o docangst@enteract.com ^ ^ ACen HomePage: http://www.acen.org/ |2| |C| *==> This is your life, and it's ending one minute at a time.Subject: Tournament Posting There will be an open 40/40 L5R tournament at Oakland University, Auburn Hills, Michigan on Saturday the 25th at Noon. (Registration begins at 11am) This tournament is part of a small gaming/sci-fi convention run by the Oakland University Gaming Guild.All convention events will take place at the Oakland University Convention Center.this Saturday the 25th at Noon.There is an entry fee for the convention, but no fee for the tournament.Prizes will be awarded based upon the number of players that participate.Contact me if you have any questions.Shiba Odoshi (nathan@mediag.com) ------------------------------ Date: