USA v. Usama Bin Laden - Trial Transcript Day 19 -
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Published on: 3/19/2001
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A. I am a special agent with the FBI.
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A. The first procedure when we got there was to what we call.
render the location safe , and that involved sending two FBI.
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A. After photographing the outside of the compound , we went.
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A. After that , it was clear to go inside the house and.
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A. I believe this is the north side of the compound behind.
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the house.I believe it is what we called the pit.
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A. As you can see , the primary entrance to enter and exit the.
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compound was on the east side , the singular little door there.
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A. As you can see , it is a singular sink with a small shelf.
to the left that was found in room I , noted on the sketch.
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A. I am sorry , I as in India.It was inside the main house.
Q. Can you tell us what is in 1351L.
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A. The second day of search we continued searching the.
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outside of the compound , which again would have been Agent.
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A. Inside the house the main things were two or three brooms.
and then the items from 1351L , a couple razors , a glass
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A. The third day of the search we were wrapping up inside the.
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house , finishing up the photographs and actually lifting the
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A. 1355 is the detonator that we found on the window sill.
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A. 1358 is the gold razor that we found on the sink in room I.
within the house
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A. 1359 is a bottle.I'm not sure what the substance is , but.
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we found it on the shelving to the left of the sink in Room I.
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A. 1371 is a rag.
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Q. Will you look at 1373 through 1375 , those three items.
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A. 1356 is a small piece of red wire that was found on the.
22nd of October just outside the house within the compound
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A. 1360 is a brown cardboard box which appears some kind of a.
letter or piece of paper with handwriting on it
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A. 1361 appears to be a small piece of aluminum foil that was.
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recovered on the 23rd of October
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A. 1362 is a piece of newspaper with nonEnglish writing on.
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it
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A. 1364 is some kind of a round cardboard appearing object.
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Q. And 1365
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A. 1365 is the top of some kind of a lid , the lid to a can I.
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A. 1366 is a small piece of paper with some sort of writing.
on it or print
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A. 1367 appears to be a small piece of black tape.
Q. 1368
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A. 1368 is a series of Q tips.
Q. 1369
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A. 1369 is another piece of newspaper.
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A. 1372 is a bag , silver colored bag , chemical bag I believe.
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it says.
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A. 1379 is a series of glass vials with single Q tip swabs in.
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them that would have been taken as swabbings.
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A. I would have to reflect to the log to see.1379 and 1381.
Q. Yes
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A. I believe 1381 is the control swabbings from the back six.
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rooms
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A. I believe someone drove us by there , but that was the.
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extent of it
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A. I don't recall.They were dirt roads , but I don't recall.
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Oh , actually I take that back.When we started the search on.
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A. I do recall that the embassy was by the Indian Ocean , yes.
Q. Did you ever have occasion to travel from the address or.
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A. I guess certain portions of it were , but , again , even not.
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as much as maybe Nairobi.I don't recall it being the traffic.
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A. In September 10th I was deployed to Dar es Salaam to.
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search a white Suzuki truck.
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A. I swabbed the vehicle for explosive residue.
Q. Did you swab the inside or the outside.
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A. The inside.The dash , the turn signal between the seats.
the back seats , the lining of the roof interior
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A. I was the acquiring agent of all the evidence taken from.
the Samurai
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A. I do recognize this.It has my initials on the tape , and.
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I have my writing , and it's metal parts from the passenger.
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A. I also recognize this.It has my writing and my initials.
on the seal , and the fork and paper napkins from the Samurai ,
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A. I do recognize this.It has my initials on the seal , and.
these were rubber-like parts that were removed from under the.
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A. I also recognize this.It has my initials on it and it is.
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a window handle that was taken from the dashboard.It was not.
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A. I do recognize this.It has my initials on it , also.
These were other items taken from the Samurai just an.
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A. I do recognize it.It has my writing on it and my.
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initials.And it's and L-shaped rubber piece from behind the.
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A. I do recognize this.A set of keys taken from the.
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Samurai
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A. I received a bachelor of science degree in metallurgy from.
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the Pennsylvania State University in May of 1985
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A. Since I've become an examiner I've had seven different.
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cases that I've been assigned to where a comparative steel
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A. At the same time that I started receiving the gas cylinder.
fragments I was also given three cylinders as examplars.
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A. The numbers in the left-hand column is just a number that.
was assigned to a different composition group.Each one of.
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A. Upon , when I first became working at the FBI in 1970 I was.
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trained in the classification , searching and the handling of
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A. I was asked to examine these items for the presence of.
latent prints to determine if latent prints were present or.
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A. The NIN stands for Ninhydrin.Ninhydrin is a chemical.
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agent that is dissolved into a carrying agent which consists.
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A. The red numbers and the lines that are coming from the.
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numbers illustrate ridge characteristics that are present in.
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A. The basis for this conclusion is determined by comparing.
the ridge characteristics of the latent palm print and seeing
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A. 1978 I joined the FBI laboratory and was assigned to the.
chemistry unit at the time.There under the tutelage of.
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A. The information contained in this summary chart is a fair.
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and accurate representation of the examination result that I
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