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Published on: 6/23/2004
Last Visited: 6/7/2008
David Oakes, CESO, told the Board that there have been many discussions on the elevation.They consider the present planned elevation to be a good one, but they are willing to look at an elevation with a clean slate.They propose a work session at staff level to agree upon an elevation and make that a part of Stage III approval at that time.
Trustee Kuvin made a suggestion to let the ultimate decision of an elevation be with combining the zoning commission and Trustees.
Trustee Speidel asked David Oakes to elaborate on a different facade.What other facades can they show?He likes the Inver Grove facade.
David Oakes replied that there is a nicer elevation than the Inver Grove.
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David Oakes, CESO, went through the conditions in the motion presented by Trustee Speidel that they are taking exception to.
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David Oakes replied that they would be agreeable to that.
Conditions 22 and 24 - Addressing the same thing, erosion control storm water quality.
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Trustee Kuvin clarified with David Oakes their position on Condition 39.
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Trustee Kuvin asked David Oakes to clarify their amendment to Condition 35.Trustee Kuvin asked Trustee Speidel if this could be modified.Trustee Speidel said he could modify to allow the bank building to have a drive completely around the bank building.He didn't want parking between the bank and outer face of the development.David Oakes pointed out the disadvantage to not allowing parking between the bank and outer face and Trustee Speidel agreed that David Oakes made a good point.
Trustee Kuvin said he couldn't remember if Condition 41 was resolved or stalemated.Trustee Speidel said he was flexible on Condition 1 but not on Condition 41.Steve Dragon and David Oakes, CESO, addressed the Board on not being able to comply with Condition 41.
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David Oakes asked about the possibility that the 200 feet remain as stated in the condition and that the 50 feet buffer that they would be allowed to disturb just enough to put storm water retention in, to satisfactory size, which probably would be mostly embankment to build the levy on that side of the storm water retention area and then you would know there would be enough area to construct.
That would eliminate any work on the north side of the creek.Trustee Speidel asked David Oakes that he was proposing to disturb the southern 50 feet buffer for construction of your retention ponds?He said to let him think about it.
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David Oakes responded that this is the minimum design.He said this is identical to the Kroger facility.
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David Oakes said that he spoke to their engineers and they will go back to make their best effort to try to implement some bio infiltration measures to the site plan to apply to Conditions 22, 24 and 44.There are bio infiltration measures but not required to meet any specific target at this time as stated in that condition.
Trustee Speidel asked if they were asking for the amendment to be made to Condition 24.
David Oakes replied 24 and 44, wherever bio infiltration is also mentioned.
Trustee Speidel said that since the bio infiltration issue in Condition 44 refers to the same engineering measures as Condition 22, he would certainly be willing to add it there, but in Condition 24, the wording there comes from Warren County Soil and Water Conservation, and he doesn't want to amend their recommendations.
Trustee Kuvin asked Trustee Speidel if he wants to amend his amendment.Trustee Speidel said that he will amend Condition 44 adding the extra sentence: that the bio infiltration measures stated here do not have to reach any specific numerical target.Trustee Kuvin seconded that motion.Trustee Kuvin asked to call the roll call on that particular amended motion.Trustee Kuvin-yes, Trustee Speidel-yes, Motion carried.
David Oakes said that they cannot agree to an amended motion on Condition 13.
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David Oakes gave an explanation of how they arrive at the number of parking spaces needed.
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David Oakes, CESO, said that at this time there are three sticking points.
1. Condition 13 - There is a motion regarding the building elevation, that it shall have the appearance, features and style of Inver Grove Heights MN.What he is proposing is that there is some type of a board set up, of three or more people, including the two Trustees, who would evaluate a building elevation for the Wal-Mart development.He further agrees, additionally, that at a minimum they would accept the Inver Grove Heights MN elevation as closely as possible as they can on this building which is not the same building in function or in size to the MN building, but they would incorporate as many architectural features that the MN building has into this elevation as a backup minimum to their plan.