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    www.goodnewsforlds.com/about.html - [Cached Version]
    Published on: 11/6/2008    Last Visited: 11/6/2008  

    Joel Kramer
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    Joel Kramer is the Director of Living Hope Ministries from Brigham City, Utah.

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    www.faithhouston.com/news_search.php?keyword=&newkeywor - [Cached Version]
    Published on: 8/22/2006    Last Visited: 11/3/2007  

    Joel Kramer, director of Living Hope Ministries, was arrested Friday, August 11th, while videotaping Mormon-themed pageant.View Entire News Posting

    2nd minister arrested Friday, August 18th at Mormon pageant--for handing out literature. - 08-24-06 - BY: BlakeOn the heels of Joel Kramer's arrest on Friday, August 11th while videotaping the Martin Harris pageant in Clarkston, Utah, ... [Chip] was arrested--fo ... View Entire News Posting

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    blog.mrm.org/category/civil-liberties/ - [Cached Version]
    Published on: 10/22/2008    Last Visited: 3/13/2009  

    Joel Kramer, 39, was arrested and booked for disorderly conduct after he told a Cache County sheriff's deputy he was not violating any laws by videotaping the pageant.
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    "These are free pageants, so there's no copyright violation and I'm within my rights to be on public land," Kramer said. "I feel like it was the LDS church influence. That's the reason I was arrested."

    Mr. Kramer's ministry has produced several excellent videos aimed at evangelizing Mormons including "DNA vs. the Book of Mormon" and "The Bible vs. the Book of Mormon. His filming of The Man Who Knew (and other LDS pageants) was done with the intention of including clips in his future video productions. Mr. Kramer has talked with the police while filming at other LDS pageants, but has not been arrested before.

    At the beginning of each pageant, an announcer asks the audience to refrain from taking photographs or video, Kramer said.

    "It sounds like law, but it's a request," Kramer said. "It would be like me announcing over a loudspeaker that I would like them not to show the pageant."

    Friday night, Kramer said he and three other men from Living Hope Ministries turned off their cameras and tried to reason with the sheriff's deputy, especially when told the [Clarkston] cemetery amphitheater had been leased by the city to the Mormon church. They also changed locations in the cemetery, moving farther away from the amphitheater, but Kramer was still arrested.

    "I told (the officer) you just arrested me for breaking the LDS rules," Kramer said, who added that none in his group went to the pageant to proselytize.

    At the time of the news report prosecutors had not yet formally charged Mr. Kramer with a crime; nor was it clear whether they intended to do so.
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    Kramer called the arrest unjust and religiously motivated, while a Cache County Sheriff's Office spokesman characterized Kramer's presence at the pageant a publicity stunt.

    Though the Herald Journal reporting is a bit biased, the story does include some information that seems to support Mr. Kramer's opinion that his arrest was influenced by the LDS Church factor:

    Sheriff's Lt. Matt Bilodeau said Kramer told deputies at the scene that his group did not believe in the tenets of the church and intended to "make a statement."
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    Here are a few excerpts from what people are saying about Mr. Kramer's arrest:

    He is a very anti-LDS minister I'm sure he was going to use the tape in a negative way against the LDS church
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    Tags: Free speech, Joel Kramer

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    www.theapologeticresponse.org/?m=200502 - [Cached Version]
    Published on: 2/1/2005    Last Visited: 3/24/2008  

    The rest of the story is better told by the leaders and members themselves so Pastor Joel Kramer and Scott Johnson of Living Hope Fellowship set out on a project to allow them to do just that.
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    With both our skepticism and our curiosity aroused, Joel and I attended the pastor's luncheon, and heard the story.
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    Scott Johnson and Joel Kramer, of Living Hope Fellowship, interview J. Michael Feazell about the changes in the WCG. [feazell.jpg photo by Thomas C. Hanson, accessed from http://www.standingtogether.org/itn 111203.html Saturday, February 5, 2005]

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    blog.mrm.org/tag/joel-kramer/ - [Cached Version]
    Published on: 8/14/2006    Last Visited: 3/7/2009  

    Joel Kramer, 39, was arrested and booked for disorderly conduct after he told a Cache County sheriff's deputy he was not violating any laws by videotaping the pageant.
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    "These are free pageants, so there's no copyright violation and I'm within my rights to be on public land," Kramer said. "I feel like it was the LDS church influence. That's the reason I was arrested."

    Mr. Kramer's ministry has produced several excellent videos aimed at evangelizing Mormons including "DNA vs. the Book of Mormon" and "The Bible vs. the Book of Mormon." His filming of The Man Who Knew (and other LDS pageants) was done with the intention of including clips in his future video productions. Mr. Kramer has talked with the police while filming at other LDS pageants, but has not been arrested before.

    At the beginning of each pageant, an announcer asks the audience to refrain from taking photographs or video, Kramer said.

    "It sounds like law, but it's a request," Kramer said. "It would be like me announcing over a loudspeaker that I would like them not to show the pageant."

    Friday night, Kramer said he and three other men from Living Hope Ministries turned off their cameras and tried to reason with the sheriff's deputy, especially when told the [Clarkston] cemetery amphitheater had been leased by the city to the Mormon church. They also changed locations in the cemetery, moving farther away from the amphitheater, but Kramer was still arrested.

    "I told (the officer) you just arrested me for breaking the LDS rules," Kramer said, who added that none in his group went to the pageant to proselytize.

    At the time of the news report prosecutors had not yet formally charged Mr. Kramer with a crime; nor was it clear whether they intended to do so.
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    Kramer called the arrest unjust and religiously motivated, while a Cache County Sheriff's Office spokesman characterized Kramer's presence at the pageant a publicity stunt.

    Though the Herald Journal reporting is a bit biased, the story does include some information that seems to support Mr. Kramer's opinion that his arrest was influenced by the LDS Church factor:

    Sheriff's Lt. Matt Bilodeau said Kramer told deputies at the scene that his group did not believe in the tenets of the church and intended to "make a statement."
    ...
    Here are a few excerpts from what people are saying about Mr. Kramer's arrest:

    He is a very anti-LDS minister I'm sure he was going to use the tape in a negative way against the LDS church
    ...
    Tags: Free speech, Joel Kramer

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    Bob's Recent Shows - [Cached Version]
    Published on: 12/1/2003    Last Visited: 1/16/2006  

    Today Bob talked with Pastor Joel Kramer about a new video he's released called, DNA vs.The Book of Mormon.
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    Pastor Kramer says that this video "provides a powerful tool to debunk the claims of Mormonism, opening the door to bring your Mormon friends and neighbors to the Jesus of the Bible."To find out more visit www.mormonchallenge.com.Following Pastor Kramer, Bob talked with Dr. Dennis Hensley about his book, Man to Man: Becoming the believer God called you to be.

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    Crosswalk.com - Film Reveals Evidence Against Mormons'... - [Cached Version]
    Published on: 2/25/2003    Last Visited: 12/7/2003  

    Living Hope's pastor, Joel Kramer, produced the film titled "DNA vs. the Book of Mormon", which reveals among other evidence, the testimony of molecular anthropologists and other scientific experts asserting that DNA conclusively proves American Indians are not of Israelite ancestry.
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    Kramer feels the film's revelations have tremendous potential for impact because "this DNA evidence shows that something they've been taught all their lives, from generation to generation, simply isn't true," he says.

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    Daily Herald - Minister arrested outside Mormon pageant - [Cached Version]
    Published on: 8/22/2006    Last Visited: 8/22/2006  

    On Aug. 11, Brigham City pastor Joel Kramer, 39, of Living Hope Ministries was arrested at the same pageant for investigation of disorderly conduct in a dispute over Kramer's taping of the pageant for use in Christian videos he produces.

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    DisciplesWorld : North American News - [Cached Version]
    Published on: 4/11/2005    Last Visited: 8/23/2006  

    Joel Kramer, 39, was arrested and booked for disorderly conduct after he told a Cache County sheriff's deputy he was not violating any laws by videotaping the pageant.
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    "These are free pageants, so there's no copyright violation and I'm within my rights to be on public land," Kramer said."I feel like it was the LDS church influence.That's the reason I was arrested."

    Kramer, who claims the entire incident was recorded on video and audio tape, said he was told by a sheriff's deputy the Mormon church had requested Kramer turn off his cameras.

    Jail records and an online incident report for the Cache County sheriff's office confirm Kramer's arrest and booking.He posted $280 bail and was released.
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    Kramer is the director of Living Hope Ministries, a non-denominational ministry based in Brigham City, Utah, that says its mission is to bring Bible truths specifically to members of the Mormon church.

    Kramer has produced several videos, including "The Bible vs.The Book of Mormon" and "DNA vs.The Book of Mormon," which can be watched over the Internet for free or purchased.

    He said he tapes the Mormon pageants - he's recorded those in Palmyra, New York and Manti, Utah - and uses sections of the tapes in his evangelizing videos.

    At other pageants, Kramer said he's talked with police but has never been arrested.

    At the beginning of each pageant, an announcer asks the audience to refrain from taking photographs or video, Kramer said.

    "It sounds like law, but it's a request," Kramer said."It would be like me announcing over a loudspeaker that I would like them not to show the pageant."

    Friday night, Kramer said he and three other men from Living Hope Ministries turned off their cameras and tried to reason with the sheriff's deputy, especially when told the cemetery amphitheater had been leased by the city to the Mormon church.They also changed locations in the cemetery, moving farther away from the amphitheater, but Kramer was still arrested.

    "I told (the officer) you just arrested me for breaking the LDS rules," Kramer said, who added that none in his group went to the pageant to proselytize.

    It's unclear if prosecutors will formally charge Kramer with a crime.

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    Lighthouse Christian Fellowship - [Cached Version]
    Published on: 4/10/2007    Last Visited: 1/11/2008  

    Joel Kramer, Pastor

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