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31) | Top | Sep 05 2007 | Jim Holman
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Jim writes:
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33) | Top | Sep 05 2007 | Jim Holman
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Jim writes:
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Such sanitized language, Jim, as if PP is no different than, say, NPR or the local preservation society.And the link between contraception and abortion is interesting too, although dubious.
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38) | Top | Sep 06 2007 | Jim Holman
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Fr. Hans: "Such sanitized language, Jim, as if PP is no different than, say, NPR or the local preservation society."
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Jim writes:Of course it is not NPR nor are abortions routine birth control.But my point is that they are engaged in a perfectly legal activity, serving women who want the services, whose right to those services â€" contraception, family planning information, and abortion â€" has been upheld in the Supreme Court.So we would actually expect them to locate their facilities in those areas that are most convenient to their clients.Again, I understand your moral disapproval, but the fact that they try to pick convenient locations is not in itself a nefarious activity.
Jim, it sounds so reasonable doesn't it? - I mean shelving abortion alongside contraception, family planning information, Supreme Court decisions, even effective placement of their stores.
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40) | Top | Sep 09 2007 | Jim Holman
Fr. Hans writes: "Jim, it sounds so reasonable doesn't it? â€" I mean shelving abortion alongside contraception, family planning information, Supreme Court decisions, even effective placement of their stores.
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46) | Top | Sep 10 2007 | Jim Holman
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Mr. Holman #46:
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This is the world that the ideas of Jim, Dean, Brent even Glen leads toward.
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55) | Top | Sep 11 2007 | Jim Holman
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Nothing in anything you or Jim have written on abortion shows any real knowledge of public health.My father was the one of the most innovative and intelligent directors of a local public health department in the country for over 25 years.He did work on abortion as a public health problem.The foundation of his approach was to keep Planned Parenthood out of Wichita.Then he attempted to work with each woman individually using the public health nurses he trained and the neighborhood clinics he established.His goal was to teach folks how to manage their lives, exercise discipline, create order, become literate so that they would recognize that abortion was wrong and have the means to act in a moral manner.He was successful as long as he was director.Within three months of his forced retirement, Planned Parenthood was in town doing their dirty work and all of Dad's programs jettisoned.
The Democrats and their genocidal allies will never allow abortion or anything else that they can politicize to be dealt with as public health matter.Neither will the Republicans.Simple reason: they will loose power and money if they do.
Jim, IMO has no interest in reducing abortion.He dosen't even see it as a problem.The only thing he is correct about is that we Christians are too timid in our opposition to it.He knows that working through the normal political structure will have little if any effect.
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#55 Jim Holman
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"No one answered Jim's question asking what has been accomplished by all the chest-thumping, posturing, demonizing, and polarizing.
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"No one answered Jim's question asking what has been accomplished by all the chest-thumping, posturing, demonizing, and polarizing.
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66) | Top | Sep 13 2007 | Jim Holman
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73) | Top | Sep 13 2007 | Jim Holman
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Jim writes:
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76) | Top | Sep 14 2007 | Jim Holman
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#73 Jim Holman
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79) | Top | Sep 14 2007 | Jim Holman
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Jim: Here is the problem with Roe v. Wade.
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84) | Top | Sep 14 2007 | Jim Holman
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James, I noticed most of the articles dealt with rents in San Francisco.
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91) | Top | Sep 15 2007 | Jim Holman
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Jim, your scenarios are ludicrous.
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95) | Top | Sep 15 2007 | Jim Holman
Fr. Hans writes: "Jim, your scenarios are ludicrous."
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Jim writes:If the fetus is literally a person in the womb, then what can't the government do in protecting that person?What specifically would be the limits of the power of the government?
Leave it to the legislatures, Jim.
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97) | Top | Sep 15 2007 | Jim Holman
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Jim writes:
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99) | Top | Sep 16 2007 | Jim Holman