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    www.techdirt.com/blog.php?company=microsoft - [Cached Version]
    Published on: 10/24/2008    Last Visited: 10/24/2008  

    Last week, Microsoft was kind enough to invite me to sit down, one-on-one with Horacio Gutierrez, the company's VP and Deputy General Counsel in charge of intellectual property and licensing. As you might imagine, given my views on the patent system in general, and Microsoft's gradual embrace of the patent system specifically, he and I disagreed on a fair amount. We agreed that the patent system should be focused on encouraging innovation. We agreed that there were abuses of the system. From there, our views pretty much diverged, though the conversation was fun and lively.

    Gutierrez began the conversation by focusing on all of the "benefits" that Microsoft sees to the patent system, which focused on all of the licensing deals that the company has done. He positioned it by noting that the patent portfolio allows the Microsoft to get into deeper business relationships with other entities. Specifically, he noted that in many cases what began as a patent licensing discussion eventually leads to a much more complete business relationship that increases interoperability. He cited deals with both Sun and Novell as examples of this.
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    The fallacy that Gutierrez laid out is that these sorts of relationships and interoperability are impossible to come by without the use of that pointy stick. That's difficult to believe. If the relationships really are mutually beneficial, then they are likely to come about in a much more friendly manner anyway. When I pointed out (literally) that Microsoft coming to companies with a big stick didn't seem like the friendliest of business negotiations, Gutierrez suggested that you "need" the stick to make the conversations work. On that we disagree, and there's a pretty long history of companies entering into mutually beneficial relationships that don't necessarily involve the threat of a lawsuit or government granted monopolies on processes.

    Gutierrez also pointed out that any complex product these days, by its very nature, will violate numerous patents from numerous other companies and individuals. Thus, his argument is that we really should focus on mechanisms to avoid lawsuits to allow those products to move forward.
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    Gutierrez also insisted on pointing out that Microsoft's rather massive patent portfolio had been voted by some third party to be one of, if not the, best patent portfolios in terms of quality. He suggested that other firms, such as IBM, were more likely to file very questionable patents, but Microsoft was much more focused on quality. Perhaps that's a subjective measure, but given how many questionable Microsoft patents we see around here all the time, some may beg to differ -- or at least point out that some questionable patents are getting through.

    In discussing all of this with Gutierrez, I brought up the company's continual FUD campaign, where it goes to the press to wave that pointy stick around, in announcing that Linux violates over 200 Microsoft patents.

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    biz.yahoo.com/prnews/080916/aqtu071.html?.v=56 - [Cached Version]
    Published on: 9/16/2008    Last Visited: 9/16/2008  

    "Industry collaboration through intellectual property licensing fosters innovation that benefits the customer, the consumer and the overall IT ecosystem," said Horacio Gutierrez, vice president of intellectual property (IP) and licensing at Microsoft.

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    www.granitestatenews.com/action.lasso?-response=/1archi - [Cached Version]
    Last Visited: 10/4/2007  

    Pianist Horacio Gutiérrez here on June 25Celebrate the 20th Anniversary of Hospice Home and Garden Tour in JulyEntrain returns to the Rochester Opera House
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    Horacio Gutiérrez Performs on June 25

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    www.fayettevillearts.org/2006/09/03/ark-dem-gazette-coo - [Cached Version]
    Published on: 9/3/2006    Last Visited: 7/15/2007  

    Arkansas Arts Center, Little Rock, Sept. 15-Nov. 12. (501 ) 372-4000, (800 ) 264-2787. 26 Classical Halloween â€" Pianist Horacio Gutierrez and the Arkansas Symphony strike up "The Sorcerer's Apprentice" and other dark night delights.Robinson Center Music Hall, Little Rock.Oct. 21-22. (501 ) 666-1761. 27 Red Shoes and Rep @ the Rep â€" An honestto-goodness dance event by the Arkansas Festival Ballet.

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    biz.yahoo.com/prnews/080827/aqw538.html?.v=17 - [Cached Version]
    Published on: 8/27/2008    Last Visited: 8/27/2008  

    "This agreement is another great example of how industry leaders are coming together to collaborate through intellectual property licensing, and by doing so enabling innovation that will ultimately benefit the consumer," said Horacio Gutierrez, vice president of intellectual property and licensing at Microsoft.

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    www.macworld.com/news/2007/05/14/msroyalty/index.php - [Cached Version]
    Published on: 1/1/2007    Last Visited: 5/14/2007  

    In an interview with Fortune magazine, Brad Smith, Microsoft's general counsel, and Horacio Gutierrez, the company's vice president of intellectual property and licensing, said open-souce software, including Linux, violates 235 Microsoft patents.
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    "This is not a case of some accidental, unknowing infringement. …There is an overwhelming number of patents being infringed," Gutierrez said.

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    www.tectonic.co.za/?p=3378 - [Cached Version]
    Published on: 10/21/2008    Last Visited: 10/21/2008  

    In an interview with CNet, Microsoft intellectual property lawyer, Horacio Gutierrez, issued veiled threats that if companies such as Red Hat didn't sign licensing agreements with Microsoft along the lines of the Novell pact, court action could be in their future: "If every effort to license proves not to be fruitful, ultimately we have a responsibility to customers that have licenses and to our shareholders to ensure our intellectual property is respected," he said.

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    www.linux.com/feed/150888 - [Cached Version]
    Published on: 10/20/2008    Last Visited: 10/20/2008  

    Horacio Gutierrez, Microsoft's intellectual property counsel, indicated that Microsoft has finally seen the open-source light in a recent interview with CNET. Demonstrating that Microsoft has finally learned that it can't fight open-source gravity, Gutierrez suggests, "Today, but increasingly in the future, we are all going to be 'mixed source'," meaning Microsoft and everyone else will balance open source with some proprietary element to their business. Read more at: news.cnet.com

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    www.hitekpinoy.com/modules/news/print.php?storyid=40 - [Cached Version]
    Published on: 5/14/2007    Last Visited: 5/24/2007  

    In an interview with Fortune magazine, Brad Smith, Microsoft's general counsel, and Horacio Gutierrez, the company's vice president of intellectual property and licensing, said open souce software, including Linux, violates 235 Microsoft patents.
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    "This is not a case of some accidental, unknowing infringement. ...There is an overwhelming number of patents being infringed," Gutierrez said.

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    www.myteksource.com/?q=aggregator/sources/1 - [Cached Version]
    Published on: 5/23/2008    Last Visited: 7/6/2008  

    "This is not a case of some accidental, unknowing infringement," Horacio Gutierrez, Microsoft's vice president of intellectual property and licensing, told Fortune magazine at the time.
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    Gutierrez, interviewed late last week, says Microsoft's hot-and-cold engagement with the open source community is neither "intentional" nor "inherently contradictory."

    "We spend $7 billion a year on research, development and cranking out innovations," he said.
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    In an interview last week, Gutierrez said that cross-licensing is vital because "customers don't want to buy an IP problem."

    Moreover, it sets the necessary groundwork so that Microsoft and its partners can comfortably work together to make their respective products interoperate.

    "Good fences make for good neighbors," he said.
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    But Gutierrez promised more cross-licensing/patent protection deals soon.There are "ongoing discussions with U.S. software makers," he said."They just can't be timed from a PR perspective."

    Gutierrez thinks even a vocal holdout like Red Hat will eventually come around, once they "recognize that there are opportunities that they are missing out, as customers are increasingly demanding vendors come together and tackle interoperability challenges together," he said.

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