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Published on: 4/1/2006
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Interview with Alan Dye & Mark Borges
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Special Feature: Compensation Disclosure Rules - Alan Dye & Mark Borges
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The following interview with Society member Alan Dye, a partner at Hogan & Hartson LLP in Washington, DC, and Mark Borges, a principal for Mercer Human Resources Consulting, also in Washington, addresses issues raised by the SEC's proposed rules on Executive Compensation Disclosure and related matters.
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Alan Dye: The item 402 disclosures will be broken down into three main categories: annual compensation, equity incentive compensation, and post-employment compensation.
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Alan Dye: The Commission is going to require that a bottom-line dollar amount be disclosed for total compensation paid to the named executive officers identified in the table.
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Alan Dye: Interestingly, the Commission is going to provide guidance in the release on what constitutes a perk.
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Alan Dye: The perks column will stay in the summary compensation table, but the Commission is dropping the disclosure threshold to $10,000.
So if total perks and other personal benefits exceed a value - and by value I think the Commission still means aggregate incremental cost - of $10,000, then the value of the perks will have to be included in the table.
$10,000 is clearly not a material number to very many companies.
What do you think is going on there?
Alan Dye: I think the lower threshold reflects the hostility that the staff has shown to the position that some companies have taken that certain executive benefits have a business purpose and therefore should not be treated as perks.
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Alan Dye: Yes, I expect that will be the case.
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Alan Dye: It seems to me the two areas where we're most likely to see in the release some suggestion that we're not doing things right now, so that we should be getting things right in our 2006 proxy statements, are perquisites disclosure and compensation committee reports.
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Alan Dye: The discussion is going to address specified issues more precisely and will be less boilerplate than what companies are providing now.
Inevitably, most disclosures that have to be repeated annually don't look a lot different from year to year within a particular company.
What are the issues that the new compensation discussion and analysis will have to address?
Alan Dye: It looks like the SEC wants to make sure that the committee explains how the compensation it's paying addresses the lofty goals that the compensation committee report tends to express as the objectives of the compensation program.
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Alan Dye: One other item that the new section on compensation discussion and analysis is supposed to address is how each element of compensation that was awarded or paid in a particular year helped achieve the committee objectives that were articulated at the beginning of the discussion.
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Alan Dye: There will be a new requirement to disclose in the summary compensation table the increase of value of pension plan payments to executives.
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Alan Dye: I don't think that the information in the summary compensation table will include all of the information included in a typical tally sheet.
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Alan Dye: The new rules will require a separate table showing total contributions to, earnings on, and withdrawals from deferred compensation plans.
That table will be in addition to the disclosure in the summary compensation table of earnings on deferred compensation.
Currently, there isn't a separate table that calls for this information.
Is there the possibility of any double counting?
Alan Dye: There will now be a requirement to have that separate disclosure from the summary comp table.
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Alan Dye: With that good segue, the second main category of executive compensation disclosures is going to be the section that will deal with pre-existing or outstanding equity awards.
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Alan Dye: Yes, I think that's right.
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Alan Dye: There will be a section that will call for disclosure of future payouts including future contingent payouts, the value or amount of retirement benefits and change in control payouts.
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Alan Dye: Yes, although the Staff has been somewhat vague on that subject.
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Alan Dye: That's going to be a difficult disclosure requirement to comply with, or at least to determine the parameters of, because the item asks companies to identify and disclose in the proxy statement relationships that nobody considered to be material and that didn't trigger a board determination of non-independence.
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Alan Dye: Sure, I'll offer my views and what my experience has been to date.
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Alan Dye and Mark Borges were presenters; Pauline Candaux moderated.