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RFC Production Center
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Company Description: Rand NIC 5848 22 April 1971 RESPONSE TO RFC #111 (PRESSURE FROM THE CHAIRMAN) The purpose of RFC #111, as I interpret it, is two-fold: 1) To establish...   more
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Sandy ...
iaoc.ietf.org, 4 April 2013 [cached]
Sandy Ginoza
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The Apple one resulted in Sandy, RFC Production Center Director, giving a deposition with ThompsonHines providing league support.
Internet Architecture Board - Minutes - 20 February 2008
www.iab.org, 20 Feb 2008 [cached]
Sandy Ginoza (RFC Editor Liaison)
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Liaisons Mark Townsley and Sandy Ginoza dropped off the call at this time.
Internet Architecture Board - IAB Members and Bios
www.iab.org, 21 May 2008 [cached]
Sandy Ginoza Liaison from the RFC Editor
Presenters included members of the ...
iaoc.ietf.org, 12 Oct 2009 [cached]
Presenters included members of the RFC Editor staff - Bob Braden, Sandy Ginoza and Alice Hagens; and Ray Pelletier, IETF Administrative Director 3.
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SANDY GINOZA: I'm Sandy Ginoza, with RFC Editor.
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SANDY GINOZA: Meghan is one of our editors, she's located in Boston.
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Sandy and Alice and Meghan are full time.
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SANDY GINOZA: History first, that's how we were going to do it.
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SANDY GINOZA: 2006.
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SANDY GINOZA: If I can interject quickly. It's just the more recent, so last 5 or on six years. And one of the questions I saw on the list that you sent us yesterday was about, type of workload and why there are bursts. And so, I think the better responder for that would probably be the IESG or Russ maybe. But what we can see from here, and I think that Russ or IESG said this before, is that a lot of ADs when there's going to be turn over, try to clear their plate for the incoming AD. So typically March we see a spike. If you you look at the red lines -- NEW SPEAKER: I'm having a hard time hearing that, could you be closer to the microphone. Is SANDY GINOZA: Can you hear me. NEW SPEAKER: Yes. SANDY GINOZA: So what we're seeing in this diagram, is submissions, and typically, I think the ADs try to clear out what's on their plate before the next AD comes into office or position.
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SANDY GINOZA: One other thing I wanted to tell you guys.
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SANDY GINOZA: My understanding is that it's being held up by the 3932bis document currently.
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SANDY GINOZA: Actually we're moving into how an ID becomes an RFC.
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Thanks, Sandy. SANDY GINOZA: Just so you guys know, we're going to try to breeze through some of these, some of these slides, because we have a demonstration later.
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SANDY GINOZA: Yes, so, this is a simplified process, and this picture is even more simplified process. [slide 28] So, what we we did is, there's so many exceptions, the majority of documents are exceptions, we took simple case, typical case straight through the processes, we noted submission process for example, the IETF stream it would be when we get the documentaction or the protocol action.
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PAUL HOFFMAN: But the NROFF that comes out of XML, is not SANDY GINOZA: The tool right now is not set up to handle the 5378.
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SANDY GINOZA: So it creates the text but not the NROFF.
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Sandy? SANDY GINOZA: I probably would have said 60 percent plus, but it's a significant number.
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SANDY GINOZA: But I think it does list the preferred ordering of the sections and that's definitely not first. NEW SPEAKER: Yes.
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SANDY GINOZA: So we have a sample here, one of the copy editors that we've had started a copy editing this document so we just want to pass it around so you can take a look at what kind of things she marks up.
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So I'm talking about the initial source file; there are two ways basically that we're going to get an XML file which Sandy mentioned one is through if ID submission tool, so they've up loaded it.
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So everybody, like Sandy mentioned everybody is on the e-mails.
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SANDY GINOZA: It is hard, because a lot of set rules, a lot of the authors want to change it back. NEW SPEAKER: There's that element also. I've used the too bad approach. But that doesn't always sit so well. PAUL HOFFMAN: Well, to go on to that, Sandy, just what happens when you send an edit back, saying we've done this consistently, because it was an RFC so and so, and the AD goes great and the author says, I hate it.
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SANDY GINOZA: IP typically it's the author.
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Give the file to Sandy for check.
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SANDY GINOZA: We can do it now. It can be a document as, the editor believes it's ready for publication as possible. (Recess.) >> SANDY GINOZA: So Alice was primary editor for this document.
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SANDY GINOZA: They have to.
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SANDY GINOZA: True. NEW SPEAKER: That's what I was getting at.
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SANDY GINOZA: So at this point, send out an auth 48 message.
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SANDY GINOZA: Right. Right.
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SANDY GINOZA: So the question here was, is this intentional, is this correct and the author re nrid, no, the first one should be this.
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SANDY GINOZA: We found it.
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SANDY GINOZA: Right.
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SANDY GINOZA: I don't think I understood that.
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SANDY GINOZA: No. They're not.
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Or -- SANDY GINOZA: No.
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SANDY GINOZA, then at the auth 48 stage if there are changes that we need them to make, we'll notify them.
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SANDY GINOZA: This is an example of some of the questions and this is where I would hand Alice back the file for auth 48 processing. ALICE HAGENS: So at this point, Sandy sent the e-mail with the links to the edited document and the diff file.
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That would also apply to the MIB boiler plate that Sandy mentioned earlier. And it would also apply to the IESG note. Occasionally an author sees the text of the note the first time when it goes to auth 48 and they say, hey, I don't want this on the my doc. Well, take that up with the IESG because the RFC editor did not produce that text and we definitely can't change it. We would repeat the same process that Sandy did, as part of RFC post the document.
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Any notes that I would want to pass along, so, for example, if at auth 48 Sandy had send along a few more questions, she might write on notes here, like AQs so I know when I'm doing the auth 48 process, I'm waiting for questions, which I should know anyway, because I'm traiking the mail for this RFC number.
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SANDY GINOZA: I want to say, historically, it was actual 48 hours, and if there was no response from the authors within 48 hours, go to publish.
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SANDY GINOZA: Yes, so the name has stuck around but that's the minimum amount of time that we wait before BOB BRADEN: It's unfortunately, more often 48 days.
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SANDY GINOZA: They can, but we would send it to the ADs and ask them what's going on.
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So there might be a reset for you folks, in that case where the (Several people talking.) SANDY GINOZA: Right.
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SANDY GINOZA: Would have already invested this time in this version.
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SANDY GINOZA: It varies a lot.
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SANDY GINOZA: The current queue right now.
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SANDY GINOZA: I don't know if you know what all of these things mean.
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SANDY GINOZA: We are. I NEW SPEAKER: Is there some automated way. SANDY GINOZA: So, this one helps us a great deal.
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SANDY GINOZA: Right.
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SANDY GINOZA: Sure. So this is our RFC editor queue. Recently, we added this view here. Which shows all the various clusters. And by cluster, we're talking about any documents that are related by reference. These may not necessarily be solely normative references in this list, because sometimes the AD or the authors might say, this document is not a normative reference but we would would really like for this document to be published together and we're going to note that here, because they cannot move forward. RAY PELLETIER: So looking at cluster three for example, which one is holding up. -- SANDY GINOZA: SANDY GINOZA: This one here that says not received.
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SANDY GINOZA: Kind of.
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SANDY GINOZA: He'll send reminder messages saying, can we do something to unblock these.
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And like Sandy said, that other list that shows them altogether by state, they would flip to the top and be in edit state. But you can see that, well, actually not from this view, but if you click C3. So this gives more detailed information for each one. SANDY GINOZA: For the particular clusters.
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SANDY GINOZA: So it's possible those documents might be inconsist also and we have to make a decision what the correct terminology is, but it's good reference points.
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SANDY GINOZA: That's become pretty difficult, like when sometimes they have, we had one set recently, and it's, this one is sort of a special case, rare case, but it was terminology and they had the same terminology repeated in four different documents. And when you make the edit to one document, you have to make the edits to all the documents and the authors were sending us varied information. We don't like this definition, we want to use this definition. So sifting through all those e-mails and finding out what the final verdict is, makes it difficult to channel these sets. NEW SPEAKER: So if you were checking all 5 for instance, for consistent terminology, would you have to, you'd open them up individually, and -- SANDY GINOZA: It depends.
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If multiple editors are working on the set, like Sandy mentioned earlier, editorial meeting to sit down and tal
Roll-call, agenda-bash, administrivia, ...
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Roll-call, agenda-bash, administrivia, approval of minutes 1.1. Attendance PRESENT Marcelo Bagnulo Ron Bonica Stuart Cheshire Aaron Falk (IRTF Chair) Sandy Ginoza (RFC Editor Liaison) Russ Housley (IETF Chair) John Klensin (late) Olaf Kolkman (IAB Chair) Gregory Lebovitz Danny McPherson David Oran Jon Peterson Dow Street (IAB Executive Director) Dave Thaler APOLOGIES: Gonzalo Camarillo Vijay Gill Andy Malis Lynn St. Amour (ISOC Liaison) 1.2. Agenda Items 6 and 7 were added to the original agenda.
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EXECUTIVE SESSION Note: Sandy dropped from the call at this point in the meeting.
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