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Wrong Ken Ramey?

Mr. Ken Ramey

Pastor - Teacher

Lakeside Bible Church

Direct Phone: (979) ***-****       

Email: r***@***.org

Lakeside Bible Church

18940 Freeport Drive

Montgomery, Texas 77356

United States

Company Description

Lakeside Bible Church is deeply committed to the absolute authority of the Bible. We are convinced that the Bible is the only trustworthy standard of what we should believe and how we should live. Our ultimate priority is to glorify God by faithfully proc... more

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Background Information

Employment History

Member, Staff
Grace Community Church

Contributor
Montgomery County News

Education



The Master

Doctorate of Ministries
Expository Preaching
TMS

M. Div.

The Master’s Seminary

bachelor's degree
Youth Ministry

bachelor’s degree
Youth Ministry
The Master’s College

Web References (87 Total References)


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Speaker: Ken Ramey

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Ken Ramey serves as the Pastor-Teacher of Lakeside Bible Church. Born and raised in Massachusetts, Ken attended Word of Life Bible Institute and School of Youth Ministries in New York and then transferred to The Master's College in Los Angeles, CA where he graduated with a bachelor's degree in Youth Ministry. He went on to receive his M. Div. from The Master's Seminary and joined the pastoral staff at Grace Community Church where he served as the High School Pastor for four years and as professor of Youth Ministry at TMC. He completed his D. Min. in Expository Preaching at TMS and authored Expository Listening: A Handbook for Hearing and Doing God's Word which expresses his passion to see lives transformed through the explanation and application of the Bible. Ken and his wife Kelli have been married for 25 years and have three children; Zachariah, Hannah, and Jacob.


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Ken Ramey and Lakeside Bible Church Elders Cause Pain for a Young Rape Victim and His Mother

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Well done, Ken Ramey! You and your people have successfully kicked a dear woman and her raped son to the curb. Why don't you turn the other cheek like a certain Carpenter (who deserves the capital C) suggested and help Shauna and care for her son?
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It should come as no surprise to our regular readers that Ken Ramey and his Elders (capital E) are sold out to the authority-driven, discipline-pursuing 9Marks' view on church.
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One point that Shauna made to me is that Ken Ramey and the Elders knew Billy for many years prior to the rape.
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Ken Ramey gave a sermon on church discipline.
Shauna is allegedly given stern warnings and even *discipline* from Ramey
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Shauna was asked to speak with Ramey privately. He told her that she was to stay quiet about what had happened to Billy. He said that if she said anything, it would be considered slander. Shauna questioned this since she was an eyewitness to what had happened to Billy. She said that slander implies a lie. Ken told her that slander didn't mean a lie.
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It seems like Ken was not interested in Billy's feelings. He forcefully stated that this sort of incident could divide the church. Note that he is placing this burden for a hypothetical church division on the backs of the rape victim and his mother.
Ramey then told her that the police investigators would not look at this situation *biblically* like the church would. Ramey believed that BOTH families should be seeking forgiveness and restoration with one another.
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Then, Ramey issued the following orders. Since he wanted both boys and families to attend the church, he decided to have Shauna attend the first service and the other family would come to the second service. He did not give her a choice. He then said that Billy had to stay at Shauna's side at all times while at church, which meant he would not be able to attend the Youth Ministry program that he had always enjoyed. Shauna asked why her son had to stay by her side and in her sight, and Ramey said that is what he had decided and would not bend on this.
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Ramey claimed that this was Shauna's "shepherd".
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During this time, Shauna asked Ken to set up a meeting with Joe's family to see if they could try to get along since they attended the same church.
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Ken interrupted and told her to be quiet. He claimed that listening to her was not what they were here for. The meeting rapidly broke up after Ken left the room.
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Apparently, someone overheard her speaking to this minister and reported it to Ramey. Ramey confronted her and told her, point blank, to stop talking about it.
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At a final meeting called by Ramey, she was accused of continuing to talk about the incident and was told that she was disobeying the leadership. In the midst of her grief, only a few months after the incident that changed their lives, Shauna resigned from the church. She was shunned by many of her former friends and slowly began to lose her clients.
An email from Ken Ramey
Do you want to understand what kind of a man Ramey is? Here is an email that Ramey sent Shauna. Thankfully, she saved much of their correspondence. I believe this email says all that I need to know about Ken Ramey.
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Ken Ramey wrote:
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Ken Ramey
Pastor-Teacher Lakeside Bible Church
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Ken Ramey and Lakeside Bible Church Elders Cause Pain for a Young Rape Victim and His Mother - 496 Comments
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What a dirt bag (Ramey, that is). Victim blaming from the very out-set.
OP: Ramey then told her that the police investigators would not look at this situation *biblically* like the church would
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Ramey believed that BOTH families should be seeking forgiveness and restoration with one another.
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If I have that right, "hello pot, meet kettle" is all I can say to Ramey on that.
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Given that Ramey continually misrepresents the situation, victim-blames, shows preferential treatment to the perpetrator, I don't blame her for wanting to set the record straight with him.
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This email proves Ramey, like all of them, have redefined Jesus Christ. They hawk another Jesus who tells young rape victims to suck it up and protect the evil rapist. They hawk a cruel Jesus claiming He has given them power.
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Ken Ramey's "god" is a jerk.
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Shauna should sue Ramey for slander! He told lies about her that directly caused financial difficulties. He and the elders, as well as the perpetrator's parents, should be sued for emotional distress as well.
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Ken Ramey and his hangers-on make me sick.
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Does Ken Ramey have a degree in counseling or in psychology? Probably not. To think that he would have the nerve to ask to speak to Billy's counselor is mind boggling.
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Ken Ramey"
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Ken Ramey
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I hope that counselor had the same intestinal fortitude as the officer threatening to arrest Ramey if he didn't back off.
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"Ramey then told her that the police investigators would not look at this situation *biblically* like the church would."
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Ken said he still wouldn't call it rape and I have those text messages. Ken never contacted bethany I had to go in 2xs to sign the release forms for her to speak with him about billy! He called left a message but then never returned her call after that when she called him back! So in spite of my being a fool I'm thinking he cared at all for billy I believe God protected Bilkmlys information from ken anyways.
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"It should come as no surprise to our regular readers that Ken Ramey and his Elders (capital E) are sold out to the authority-driven, discipline-pursuing 9Marks' view on church."
Ken Ramey is a graduate of John Macarthur's Masters College, Masters Seminary, and was a pastor for years at Macarthur's Grace Community Church. He is "sold out" 100% to John Macarthur's Lordship Salvation cultic paradigm. Ken Ramey is a 100% Macarthurite yet we are to believe he's sold out to 9Marks view.
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Ken had it for 3 months never read it. When I told him I needed it back he said he listened to the cd and loved the second one on forgiveness. I don't believe he even listened to it because justin abuser was oblivious to the harm he caused!
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Yeah, I get that, but I am still struck at *how quickly* Ramey jumped into this situation, even to the point of confronting the police at an active crime scene.
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Pastor Ramey,
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Yeah, I get that, but I am still struck at *how quickly* Ramey jumped into this situation, even to the point of confronting the police at an active crime scene.
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For someone coming out of TMS with its high view of Scriptural inerrancy, Pastor Ken seems to have an odd view about the state in these matters. If he was truly Biblical, he would take comfort in knowing the sword is there to be wielded against the actual wrongdoer. Or perhaps he takes issue that the state has any power at all (i.e. it is not under his control)?
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For someone coming out of TMS with its high view of Scriptural inerrancy, Pastor Ken seems to have an odd view about the state in these matters. If he was truly Biblical, he would take comfort in knowing the sword is there to be wielded against the actual wrongdoer. Or perhaps he takes issue that the state has any power at all (i.e. it is not under his control)?
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This comment from the article is the only thing I disagree with, because Ken Ramey does not need to turn the other cheek, he hasn't been slapped, Shauna and son are the ones turning the other cheek.
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Having read the message Ramey sent her, all I can say is, Ken Ramey is, in my opinion, just a flat out evil human being, a monster.


Ken Ramey serves as the ...

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Ken Ramey serves as the Pastor-Teacher of Lakeside Bible Church in Montgomery, Texas. Ken and his wife, Kelli, have been married 20+ years and have three children:Zachariah, Hannah, and Jacob.


• March 10: Adam will preach ...

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• March 10: Adam will preach in both morning services; Dr. Ken Ramey, senior pastor at Lakeside Bible Church where Adam has served for the past seven years, will preach in the evening service.


• March 10: Adam will preach ...

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• March 10: Adam will preach in both morning services; Dr. Ken Ramey, senior pastor at Lakeside Bible Church where Adam has served for the past seven years, will preach in the evening service.

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