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Employment History

Pastor - Teacher

Lakeside Bible Church

Pastor

Summit View Community Church

Education

The Master

Doctorate of Ministries

Expository Preaching

TMS

M. Div.

The Master’s Seminary

bachelor's degree

Youth Ministry

bachelor’s degree

Youth Ministry

The Master’s College

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Shauna and Billy Share Proof ...

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Shauna and Billy Share Proof of Billy’s Rape While Ken Ramey and Elders Whine | Thu Mar 17, 2016 | 149 | Continue reading → | � Shauna and Billy Share Proof of Billy’s Rape While Ken Ramey and Elders Whine

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Shauna and Billy Share Proof of Billy’s Rape While Ken Ramey and Elders Whine | Thu Mar 17, 2016 | 149 | Continue reading → | � Shauna and Billy Share Proof of Billy’s Rape While Ken Ramey and Elders Whine
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Shauna and Billy Share Proof of Billy's Rape While Ken Ramey and Elders Whine
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Shauna and Billy Share Proof of Billy's Rape While Ken Ramey and Elders Whine - 149 Comments
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Now let's see Ken Ramey explain medical records (sexual assault /rape) , Joe's guilty plea, Billy's ambulance ride!!!! The night billy was raped by Joe
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I admit, I feel nothing but contempt for Ramey and the cowards he has surrounded himself with.
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Know that the truth is bringing peace and I have no doubt it will ultimately bring justice for my Billy with Ken Ramey's agregious accusations against Billy!Dr.
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I admit, I feel nothing but contempt for Ramey and the cowards he has surrounded himself with.
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Ramey and his yes men have sown the wind. Karma and her sister Comeuppance are relentless.
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Ken Ramey told me after the rape that I was being a martyr in my grief over what joe did to billy and that I was bitter an angry.
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If you support Billy if you believe Billy now tell Ken Ramey! Ask him to stop slandering Billy and to publically apologize to my son for the malicious, factious, slanderous statements he has made about Billy since the rape occurred and he began his assault on Billy with his covering this up and sweeping it under the rug while trying to silence the victims! I'm calling all members to hold Ken and the Elders accountable as they seem to have no problem preaching and forcing accountability on LBC members.
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Yes! and you can imagine my astonishment the day Ken told me Joe got saved when I told him he finally after months of lying admitted to raping Billy and declared he was a homosexual to the district attorney and then began stating he wasn't responsible because billy was a homosexual.
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When Shauna met with Ken in 2013, He allegedly urged her to ask Billy if he was lying.
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Ken Ramey and the elders have personally themselves told members and other pastors that this was consensual.
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I also need to Note that Ken Ramey showed up at Hermann Memorial and stayed there before, during, and after Billy's rape examination. I also need to note that he was told that Joe tore billy and that there had been trauma to Billy's analysis region!!!! I also need to note that ken ramey was there when it took 5 to 6 people to hold billy down after the rape examination to give him shots for the STD preventatives that you see listed on the medical bill!!! I also held billy while the rape examiner completed the swabbing and she confirmed to me personally that billy was in fact penetrated and torn!!!
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I echo Shauna's call for a public apology from Ken Ramey and the Elders and anyone within Lakeside who has perpetuated the spiritual abuse, gossip, and slander of her and her son. @ Melissa:
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Yes! and you can imagine my astonishment the day Ken told me Joe got saved when I told him he finally after months of lying admitted to raping Billy
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From Joe, to an Air Force Captain I knew from Redeemer Arlington, Ken Ramey, C.J. Mahaney, Mark Dever, Mark Driscoll, etc...Christians don't say they are sorry and work to undo the damage.
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Now let's see Ken Ramey explain medical records (sexual assault /rape) , Joe's guilty plea, Billy's ambulance ride!!!! The night billy was raped by Joe
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Now let's see Ken Ramey explain medical records (sexual assault /rape) , Joe's guilty plea, Billy's ambulance ride!!!! The night billy was raped by Joe
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I echo Shauna's call for a public apology from Ken Ramey and the Elders and anyone within Lakeside who has perpetuated the spiritual abuse, gossip, and slander of her and her son
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I also need to Note that Ken Ramey showed up at Hermann Memorial and stayed there before, during, and after Billy's rape examination. I also need to note that he was told that Joe tore billy and that there had been trauma to Billy's analysis region!!!! I also need to note that ken ramey was there when it took 5 to 6 people to hold billy down after the rape examination to give him shots for the STD preventatives that you see listed on the medical bill!!! I also held billy while the rape examiner completed the swabbing and she confirmed to me personally that billy was in fact penetrated and torn!!!
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Every Sunday and wednesday we attended before and after service billy would run to Ken and throw his arms around him. He would be anxious to get to church because he wanted to see ken and some of the men who were kind and caring to Billy. My ex husband is not in his sons life and hasn't been for years. This was very difficult for billy. Now I am not here to bash my ex husband as he is billy's father and he was someone who took part in giving me such a beautiful boy. I have nothing negative to say about him because if he ever comes to know my Savior I know that he will find billy and try to make it right. I want billy to be open to this and know that but for this man there would be no billy. With this said a huge deep rooted hole has been in billy's heart over not having his father. Ken and these men filled some of this sadness that billy had and it brought joy to my son to see ken and even get a few words of love and encouragement from ken and the elders/Randy Swearingen. When his rape happened not one of them ever hugged billy ,told him it wasn't his,fault, nor did they ever lay hands on him and pray over him. Billy felt this! He never got a call or any affirmation that billy did nothing wrong.
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I also need to Note that Ken Ramey showed up at Hermann Memorial and stayed there before, during, and after Billy's rape examination. I also need to note that he was told that Joe tore billy and that there had been trauma to Billy's analysis region!!!! I also need to note that ken ramey was there when it took 5 to 6 people to hold billy down after the rape examination to give him shots for the STD preventatives that you see listed on the medical bill!!! I also held billy while the rape examiner completed the swabbing and she confirmed to me personally that billy was in fact penetrated and torn!!!
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Every Sunday and wednesday we attended before and after service billy would run to Ken and throw his arms around him. He would be anxious to get to church because he wanted to see ken and some of the men who were kind and caring to Billy...When his rape happened not one of them ever hugged billy ,told him it wasn't his,fault, nor did they ever lay hands on him and pray over him. How could any of those people at LBC and especially the pastors/Elders (with a capital E) ignore the pain that Billy went through? What is wrong with them?
You never know people based on their public persona, because most people know that it serves them to be nice in public, a hug for public consumption builds a church-"Isn't Pastor Ken great! You only know someone when they're faced with a situation in which they stand to gain nothing by being nice to you. Seems to me when it ceased to serve Ken's interests to be nice to Billy, you got to see the real Ken.
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Every Sunday and wednesday we attended before and after service billy would run to Ken and throw his arms around him. He would be anxious to get to church because he wanted to see ken and some of the men who were kind and caring to Billy. My ex husband is not in his sons life and hasn't been for years. This was very difficult for billy. Now I am not here to bash my ex husband as he is billy's father and he was someone who took part in giving me such a beautiful boy. I have nothing negative to say about him because if he ever comes to know my Savior I know that he will find billy and try to make it right. I want billy to be open to this and know that but for this man there would be no billy. With this said a huge deep rooted hole has been in billy's heart over not having his father. Ken and these men filled some of this sadness that billy had and it brought joy to my son to see ken and even get a few words of love and encouragement from ken and the elders/Randy Swearingen. When his rape happened not one of them ever hugged billy ,told him it wasn't his,fault, nor did they ever lay hands on him and pray over him. Billy felt this! He never got a call or any affirmation that billy did nothing wrong.
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Pastor Ken Ramey, the pastors/elders at his TX church, and all other adults at Lakeside Bible Church in Texas are MANDATORY child ab


Shauna and Billy Share Proof of ...

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Shauna and Billy Share Proof of Billy's Rape While Ken Ramey and Elders Whine →

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More recently we have seen the horrible handling by pastor Ken Ramey of a child rape case.
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Shauna and Billy Share Proof of Billy's Rape While Ken Ramey and Elders Whine →


Speaker: Ken ...

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Speaker: Ken Ramey

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Ken Ramey serves as the Pastor-Teacher of Lakeside Bible Church. Born and raised in Massachusetts, Ken attended Word of Life Bible Institute and School of Youth Ministries in New York and then transferred to The Master's College in Los Angeles, CA where he graduated with a bachelor's degree in Youth Ministry. He went on to receive his M. Div. from The Master's Seminary and joined the pastoral staff at Grace Community Church where he served as the High School Pastor for four years and as professor of Youth Ministry at TMC. He completed his D. Min. in Expository Preaching at TMS and authored Expository Listening: A Handbook for Hearing and Doing God's Word which expresses his passion to see lives transformed through the explanation and application of the Bible. Ken and his wife Kelli have been married for 25 years and have three children; Zachariah, Hannah, and Jacob.


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Ken Ramey and Lakeside Bible Church Elders Cause Pain for a Young Rape Victim and His Mother

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Well done, Ken Ramey! You and your people have successfully kicked a dear woman and her raped son to the curb. Why don't you turn the other cheek like a certain Carpenter (who deserves the capital C) suggested and help Shauna and care for her son?
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It should come as no surprise to our regular readers that Ken Ramey and his Elders (capital E) are sold out to the authority-driven, discipline-pursuing 9Marks' view on church.
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One point that Shauna made to me is that Ken Ramey and the Elders knew Billy for many years prior to the rape.
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Ken Ramey gave a sermon on church discipline.
Shauna is allegedly given stern warnings and even *discipline* from Ramey
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Shauna was asked to speak with Ramey privately. He told her that she was to stay quiet about what had happened to Billy. He said that if she said anything, it would be considered slander. Shauna questioned this since she was an eyewitness to what had happened to Billy. She said that slander implies a lie. Ken told her that slander didn't mean a lie.
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It seems like Ken was not interested in Billy's feelings. He forcefully stated that this sort of incident could divide the church. Note that he is placing this burden for a hypothetical church division on the backs of the rape victim and his mother.
Ramey then told her that the police investigators would not look at this situation *biblically* like the church would. Ramey believed that BOTH families should be seeking forgiveness and restoration with one another.
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Then, Ramey issued the following orders. Since he wanted both boys and families to attend the church, he decided to have Shauna attend the first service and the other family would come to the second service. He did not give her a choice. He then said that Billy had to stay at Shauna's side at all times while at church, which meant he would not be able to attend the Youth Ministry program that he had always enjoyed. Shauna asked why her son had to stay by her side and in her sight, and Ramey said that is what he had decided and would not bend on this.
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Ramey claimed that this was Shauna's "shepherd".
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During this time, Shauna asked Ken to set up a meeting with Joe's family to see if they could try to get along since they attended the same church.
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Ken interrupted and told her to be quiet. He claimed that listening to her was not what they were here for. The meeting rapidly broke up after Ken left the room.
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Apparently, someone overheard her speaking to this minister and reported it to Ramey. Ramey confronted her and told her, point blank, to stop talking about it.
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At a final meeting called by Ramey, she was accused of continuing to talk about the incident and was told that she was disobeying the leadership. In the midst of her grief, only a few months after the incident that changed their lives, Shauna resigned from the church. She was shunned by many of her former friends and slowly began to lose her clients.
An email from Ken Ramey
Do you want to understand what kind of a man Ramey is? Here is an email that Ramey sent Shauna. Thankfully, she saved much of their correspondence. I believe this email says all that I need to know about Ken Ramey.
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Ken Ramey wrote:
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Ken Ramey
Pastor-Teacher Lakeside Bible Church
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Ken Ramey and Lakeside Bible Church Elders Cause Pain for a Young Rape Victim and His Mother - 496 Comments
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What a dirt bag (Ramey, that is). Victim blaming from the very out-set.
OP: Ramey then told her that the police investigators would not look at this situation *biblically* like the church would
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Ramey believed that BOTH families should be seeking forgiveness and restoration with one another.
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If I have that right, "hello pot, meet kettle" is all I can say to Ramey on that.
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Given that Ramey continually misrepresents the situation, victim-blames, shows preferential treatment to the perpetrator, I don't blame her for wanting to set the record straight with him.
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This email proves Ramey, like all of them, have redefined Jesus Christ. They hawk another Jesus who tells young rape victims to suck it up and protect the evil rapist. They hawk a cruel Jesus claiming He has given them power.
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Ken Ramey's "god" is a jerk.
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Shauna should sue Ramey for slander! He told lies about her that directly caused financial difficulties. He and the elders, as well as the perpetrator's parents, should be sued for emotional distress as well.
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Ken Ramey and his hangers-on make me sick.
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Does Ken Ramey have a degree in counseling or in psychology? Probably not. To think that he would have the nerve to ask to speak to Billy's counselor is mind boggling.
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Ken Ramey"
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Ken Ramey
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I hope that counselor had the same intestinal fortitude as the officer threatening to arrest Ramey if he didn't back off.
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"Ramey then told her that the police investigators would not look at this situation *biblically* like the church would."
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Ken said he still wouldn't call it rape and I have those text messages. Ken never contacted bethany I had to go in 2xs to sign the release forms for her to speak with him about billy! He called left a message but then never returned her call after that when she called him back! So in spite of my being a fool I'm thinking he cared at all for billy I believe God protected Bilkmlys information from ken anyways.
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"It should come as no surprise to our regular readers that Ken Ramey and his Elders (capital E) are sold out to the authority-driven, discipline-pursuing 9Marks' view on church."
Ken Ramey is a graduate of John Macarthur's Masters College, Masters Seminary, and was a pastor for years at Macarthur's Grace Community Church. He is "sold out" 100% to John Macarthur's Lordship Salvation cultic paradigm. Ken Ramey is a 100% Macarthurite yet we are to believe he's sold out to 9Marks view.
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Ken had it for 3 months never read it. When I told him I needed it back he said he listened to the cd and loved the second one on forgiveness. I don't believe he even listened to it because justin abuser was oblivious to the harm he caused!
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Yeah, I get that, but I am still struck at *how quickly* Ramey jumped into this situation, even to the point of confronting the police at an active crime scene.
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Pastor Ramey,
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Yeah, I get that, but I am still struck at *how quickly* Ramey jumped into this situation, even to the point of confronting the police at an active crime scene.
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For someone coming out of TMS with its high view of Scriptural inerrancy, Pastor Ken seems to have an odd view about the state in these matters. If he was truly Biblical, he would take comfort in knowing the sword is there to be wielded against the actual wrongdoer. Or perhaps he takes issue that the state has any power at all (i.e. it is not under his control)?
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For someone coming out of TMS with its high view of Scriptural inerrancy, Pastor Ken seems to have an odd view about the state in these matters. If he was truly Biblical, he would take comfort in knowing the sword is there to be wielded against the actual wrongdoer. Or perhaps he takes issue that the state has any power at all (i.e. it is not under his control)?
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This comment from the article is the only thing I disagree with, because Ken Ramey does not need to turn the other cheek, he hasn't been slapped, Shauna and son are the ones turning the other cheek.
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Having read the message Ramey sent her, all I can say is, Ken Ramey is, in my opinion, just a flat out evil human being, a monster.

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