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The Bud Angst Report » Blog Archive » Pine Grove JTA-Council Squabble Over Water Service Extenion
"If we can get the water to go with the sewer," says John Stahl, chairman of the JTA, "it is the best of all worlds."
...This time, however, Hesser is up against an equally determined opponent: Stahl, the JTA chairman, who has a counter-punch for each of Hesser's blows.
To the claim that the borough does not have enough water to meet the Route 443 demand, Stahl
replies the borough has far more than enough water to meet the increased demand.
"70,000 gallons a day would do the job," he
says, "and more than that is available."
Stahl points to the Guilford Mills plant in Pine Grove which formerly consumed 28 million gallons of the town's water each month.As a result of downsizing and internal modernization, the plant now uses only 15 million gallons.
"So there is more than enough water available to serve the Route 443 businesses," Stahl
Noting that Hesser claims to be "protecting the borough," Stahl
asks, "What is she
protecting them from?Progress?"
To which Stahl
responds by claiming that the income from the proposed new customers will more than cover the cost of servicing the debt.
"You calculate how much revenue you would generate from the customer base down there, and you find that would justify borrowing the money," Stahl
"It would be self-liquidating.The revenue would be more than enough to support the cost of operation and to retire the debt.That's how you build these systems," he
admits that Tuesday's meeting with the prospective customers - the owners of the businesses currently located near the interchange and the developers planning new businesses in the vicinity - was arranged to let Holden, Allen and others "know how things stand so they can officially lend their support to the effort."
"Look what has already happened since the sewer line project was begun," Stahl
says."The Pat Aungst project, 94 lots in the borough, would have been impossible because there were no sewer hookups to be had."
Aungst has underway a residential development, partially in both the borough and Pine Grove Township.
"Just with the little bit we've done so far," Stahl
adds, "huge changes are taking place."
In response to fears that the water table, the underground level from which the borough draws its water, will not support the additional demand, Stahl
says, "The people in Harrisburg, the hydrologists, have made the statement that there is enough water in this aquifer to supply all of eastern Pennsylvania."
The addition of new water customers from the interchange area, Stahl
adds, would not even require additional water storage on the part of the borough.
"The current storage in the tanks is more than sufficient to supply any conceivable demand," he
says."We used to be able to supply much more to Guilford Mills, so we wouldn't have to make any changes." Stahl
is optimistic, however, that the on-going conflict will be resolved in the JTA's favor.
John H. Stahl - Member
- Reichert and Lehman met with ...
- Reichert and Lehman met with Pine Grove Township's Joint Treatment Authority member, John Stahl, on Sept. 4 to discuss the area where the old sewer plant is located.
PGJTA Board Members
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Pine Grove Township Authority Chairman John Stahl, however, reminded the members that the hydrologist may have also received some items for clarification.
He noted that one of the tests is only done at certain labs, with the nearest one in Connecticut, except for DEP's own lab in Wilkes-Barre.
One of the DEP employees, he said, offered his assistance, but he has not heard from him.
agreed, noting that if the system is turned over to the county, rates will definitely increase.
In the meantime, Stahl said Wiest has hurriedly prepared a lease and sales agreement for Charles Miller, the owner of the property, to sign.
According to Stahl
, the authority would pay $1 per year until the sub-division is finalized.
The authority is purchasing three acres of Miller's 33-acre tract located behind Arby's
which is currently for sale, and will be, said Stahl
, more valuable with public water.
During the June water leak, Stahl
also noticed a problem with the back-up generator on Well No. 1, and when the leak was located, a request was made to DEP to continue the use of Well #2 even though the boil water advisory would remain in effect.
According to Stahl
, the parts for the generator have been rebuilt and new gages were scheduled to be installed on July 19.
Water samples will be taken and delivered to a Pottsville lab for testing.
"Hopefully," said Stahl
, "the boil water will be lifted and we'll be back on Well #1 with a backup generator.
"Nothing is going out unless I'm aware of it," said Stahl
, adding, however that the villagers should not expect daily communications from him, nor even weekly as one man suggested.
"When you get a boil water notice, you abide by it until you get another notice with my signature on it.
noted also that the only action he
would defend would be what is under his
A resident also noted her
concerns about her
elderly mother using the water since she
has a compromised immune system.
According to Stahl
, the manganese in the system is coating the inside of the pipes, but it can be caught in home filters.
"If we had $80,000, we'd fix it and you wouldn't need home filters," said Stahl
, and that is the intention, he
said, to look for another grant for sand filters once the upgrade is completed.
The installation of seven fire hydrants is part of the upcoming project at a cost of $5,500 each.
noted the locations which, he
said, require an 8-inch line.
According to Stahl
, anyone living within 600 feet of a hydrant should get the best property insurance rate.
did not disagree, he
recommended it be done following construction and six months of operation.
The new system, he
said, will change the cost of electricity since the delivery system will be by gravity and the pump will only be working 10 hours per day to feed the tank.
There will be an entirely new operating system to evaluate, said Stahl
added, however, there is a need to build a reserve account for the future.
reminded members that an appraiser must be hired to appraise the property.
- A discussion concerning the fire alert system for Waterbridge was discussed, as well as the recommendations given to the facility's owners.
also reported on an inexpensive fix he
put together for managing water levels in the tank.
After purchasing about $150 worth of parts, he
designed a circuit and it's ready to install.