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Mr. Dave Wilmes

Program Evaluator

Page Unified School District

Direct Phone: (928) ***-****       

Page Unified School District

434 Lake Powell Blvd

Page, Arizona 86040

United States

Company Description

Page Unified School District serves all American Indian students in preschool through 12th grade. Our program is funded by four federal grants - Johnson O'Malley (JOM), Title VII, Title VII demonstration, and Impact Aid. We are currently serving over 2,00 ... more

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CAVIAT High School

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Page USD: Administration

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Mr. Dave Wilmes Program Evaluator P: 928-608-4165


According to Dave Wilmes, ...

www.lakepowellchronicle.com [cached]

According to Dave Wilmes, Page Unified School District's program evaluator, the district noticed the inaccuracies, and appealed the findings on Sept. 18. After not hearing back on its appeal, the district wrongly assumed it had been denied.

Wilmes had attempted to submit the appeal using a new computer system implemented by ADE. The Web-based system for some reason would not accept Page's appeal when Wilmes tried to submit it though.
"I have no idea why their system blocked my submission," Wilmes said.
After realizing the appeal was not going through, Wilmes e-mailed the appeal to ADE.
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According to Wilmes, ADE processed part of the appeal in September, because the data provided to Wilmes by the state changed in regards to the 24 previously tested students. Somehow though, ADE did not look at the part of the appeal dealing with untested home-school students.
"The part about the home-school kids they never looked at, because they put the e-mail someplace," Wilmes said.
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On Oct. 23, Franciosi informed Page High School Principal Perry Berry and Wilmes through e-mails that the school's appeal was accepted and it had achieved AYP.
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Wilmes said he was not surprised the mistakes had happened on the ADE side of things, though. He specifically pointed out the department is trying to do things with its computer system it does not have the capabilities to do. Wilmes was also upset that the district had to even appeal the 24 students who had previously taken the test.
"They have test scores, they know who took the test before," Wilmes said. "Why do I have to appeal our kids that they have the scores for?"
Wilmes pointed out the hypocrisy in having to take data provided by the ADE to show the ADE which kids it should not count against the school's AYP score. Wilmes also wondered how many schools in the state might have faced similar issues, but don't have the resources or connections to track it down.
"What about schools that don't have a superintendent capable of calling the county superintendent, who happens to be on the state board of education?" Wilmes said.


PUSD data coordinator Dave ...

www.lakepowellchronicle.com [cached]

PUSD data coordinator Dave Wilmes said the way the district compiles the data is that every student who enters a school in the state of Arizona is assigned a state student number called a Student Accountability Information System number.

"We are able to track kids that come from other schools, and if we have kids that go to other schools, the state tracks them," he said.
Any student that goes into or is transferred into a school during the school year is added into the cohort with other students, Wilmes said.
For instance, if there is a freshman student that is added to the 2011 cohort, the student remains in the cohort, even if he or she transfers to another school.Even if PUSD gets a new student in his or her second year of high school, he or she is still in the cohort, Wilmes said.
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The only way to get out of the system would be to transfer to another school, Wilmes said.
"We get a pretty accurate number of how many kids come through our system and how many kids have graduated, and we can get an accurate graduation rate and an accurate dropout rate," he said.
Along with Berry, Wilmes said the data presented by Johns Hopkins is also flawed.


PUSD data coordinator Dave ...

www.lakepowellchronicle.com [cached]

PUSD data coordinator Dave Wilmes said the way the district compiles the data is that every student who enters a school in the state of Arizona is assigned a state student number called a Student Accountability Information System number.

"We are able to track kids that come from other schools, and if we have kids that go to other schools, the state tracks them," he said.
Any student that goes into or is transferred into a school during the school year is added into the cohort with other students, Wilmes said.
For instance, if there is a freshman student that is added to the 2011 cohort, the student remains in the cohort, even if he or she transfers to another school.Even if PUSD gets a new student in his or her second year of high school, he or she is still in the cohort, Wilmes said.
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The only way to get out of the system would be to transfer to another school, Wilmes said.
"We get a pretty accurate number of how many kids come through our system and how many kids have graduated, and we can get an accurate graduation rate and an accurate dropout rate," he said.
Along with Berry, Wilmes said the data presented by Johns Hopkins is also flawed.


PUSD program evaluator Dave ...

www.lakepowellchronicle.com [cached]

PUSD program evaluator Dave Wilmes said with AYP, a school either makes it or they don't based on a wide range of criteria.

Lake View Elementary School, for example, was measured on 22 subgroups, and all but one of those met the standard, which was the third-grade reading level.
"One of the things that happened to Lake View is a year ago, for whatever reason, there was five (English-language learner) kids in a group of about 60 or 70 kids that took the test," he said."Last spring, when they took the test, there was 35 ELL kids in that group, which points out one of the flaws in the system is you're not measuring the same group of kids each year."
If a school system has a group of students who does well on the tests, but then the next year, a different set of students may have difficulties taking the test, as the second group of students passes through the school system, it's going to show up every year, Wilmes said.
"You're not measuring how you teach the kids or take them from where they are to where they ought to be.It's like you take a slice, but it's a different slice every year, and it looks different," he said.
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Wilmes said when a test, if given to a student that they know cannot pass a test and therefore the school does not make AYP, then they're stuck and that's the flaw in the system.

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