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CHARLIE ROSE Transcript #3146
CHARLIE ROSE, Host: Lord of the Rings goes to this year's Academy Award competition not only with big box office sales but also the most number of Academy Award nominations, including Best Picture, Best Supporting Actor, and its director, Peter Jackson. CHARLIE ROSE: Peter Jackson for the hour - tonight. CHARLIE ROSE: Director Peter Jackson is here. CHARLIE ROSE: I am pleased to welcome Peter Jackson to this table for the first time. CHARLIE ROSE: And congratulations. CHARLIE ROSE: Yeah. CHARLIE ROSE: Is this the movie you set out to make? CHARLIE ROSE: Yeah. CHARLIE ROSE: Yeah. CHARLIE ROSE: -span of time. CHARLIE ROSE: You know. CHARLIE ROSE: Yeah. CHARLIE ROSE: Yeah. CHARLIE ROSE: And a hell of a burden on- I mean, a hell of a weight for you to carry. CHARLIE ROSE: That you didn't feel the weight of "We've got a lot riding on this." CHARLIE ROSE: Did you- as you were making these- I mean, can we expect the second and third- the first is out. CHARLIE ROSE: That's the other side. CHARLIE ROSE: Right. CHARLIE ROSE: I'd say reasonably successful, yeah. CHARLIE ROSE: Yeah. CHARLIE ROSE: So if you like the first one, you should like the second one. CHARLIE ROSE: And even moreso because you'll be more into the story. CHARLIE ROSE: Yeah. CHARLIE ROSE: Yeah. CHARLIE ROSE: Now, where- what's the status of second and third? CHARLIE ROSE: Here you are, at 18 years old, in New Zealand- English parents who moved to New Zealand. CHARLIE ROSE: Lived there, early on began to make little 8-millimeter films. CHARLIE ROSE: At 18 years old, you read [unintelligible] CHARLIE ROSE: Right? CHARLIE ROSE: At 34, you start making the movie. CHARLIE ROSE: Began, right. CHARLIE ROSE: The whole process. CHARLIE ROSE: You're now 40, 41? CHARLIE ROSE: You're 40. CHARLIE ROSE: -a lot of your time- CHARLIE ROSE: Yeah. CHARLIE ROSE: Yeah. CHARLIE ROSE: And knew early what you wanted to do. CHARLIE ROSE: Yeah. CHARLIE ROSE: Yeah. CHARLIE ROSE: Yeah. CHARLIE ROSE: Yes. CHARLIE ROSE: Yeah. CHARLIE ROSE: Is that a legend or- CHARLIE ROSE: Yeah. Made English Patient. CHARLIE ROSE: About not to be made. CHARLIE ROSE: Yeah. CHARLIE ROSE: Yeah. Right. CHARLIE ROSE: Yeah. [unintelligible] CHARLIE ROSE: Yeah. Right. Right. CHARLIE ROSE: Right. CHARLIE ROSE: And one last shot. CHARLIE ROSE: And you had nothing. CHARLIE ROSE: Yeah, right. He's setting you up for the fall. CHARLIE ROSE: Yeah. CHARLIE ROSE: I hope you got up and went over and kissed him. CHARLIE ROSE: Yeah. CHARLIE ROSE: So you left there saying, "I'm going to make three movies. CHARLIE ROSE: Right. CHARLIE ROSE: Right. CHARLIE ROSE: Plus he got 5 percent, too, didn't he? CHARLIE ROSE: And the title is executive producer or something like- CHARLIE ROSE: OK. CHARLIE ROSE: -spend how much money for three movies? CHARLIE ROSE: Talk about casting. CHARLIE ROSE: Yeah. CHARLIE ROSE: Yeah. CHARLIE ROSE: Yeah. CHARLIE ROSE: And New Zealand, as a -place, contributed to that for you, as the movie. CHARLIE ROSE: Because it's an unspoiled Britain, so to speak? CHARLIE ROSE: Yeah. CHARLIE ROSE: Yeah. All right. CHARLIE ROSE: The most important casting? CHARLIE ROSE: Yeah. CHARLIE ROSE: So tell me why Elijah. CHARLIE ROSE: Right. CHARLIE ROSE: Magical. CHARLIE ROSE: Yeah. CHARLIE ROSE: Bingo. CHARLIE ROSE: Roll tape. Here's a scene in which Frodo is being chased by the evil Dark Riders, and he decides to leave the shire. [excerpt from ``The Fellowship of the Ring''] CHARLIE ROSE: Then there is Ian McKellen. CHARLIE ROSE: No other choice? CHARLIE ROSE: No Anthony Hopkins, no- CHARLIE ROSE: Ian Holm. CHARLIE ROSE: Why McKellen? CHARLIE ROSE: You've said about this that you wanted the costumes and the actors to give the audience a sense of authenticity. CHARLIE ROSE: Make it real. CHARLIE ROSE: You said that you made the movie- that you didn't make the movie that Tolkien would have made, but you made the movie he would have enjoyed. CHARLIE ROSE: But you had some reason to say that. CHARLIE ROSE: Like what? CHARLIE ROSE: Mentorship, you know. CHARLIE ROSE: Did you have some kind of mechanism in a sense so that you could make sure that you were true to Tolkien? CHARLIE ROSE: Someone- one of your actors said that there was- that the most inspired moments of making this movie came from doubt and panic. CHARLIE ROSE: One thing you added to this is female characters. CHARLIE ROSE: In order to do? CHARLIE ROSE: To enhance it a little bit or extend it. CHARLIE ROSE: Who's the audience for this movie? Is it adults and kids? CHARLIE ROSE: Eight to- CHARLIE ROSE: You had final cut? CHARLIE ROSE: Nothing- now that you look at it, that you would have- I mean, do differently? CHARLIE ROSE: Why would you do that? CHARLIE ROSE: So what would I see in that version I don't see in the original version? CHARLIE ROSE: I see, so it's not one whole- not one sequence. CHARLIE ROSE: Your fascination with the notion escapism is what? CHARLIE ROSE: Because that is your passion, whether it's this kind of genre or not, is that what you think distinguishes you as a filmmaker? CHARLIE ROSE: Some sense of being urgent about that idea? CHARLIE ROSE: Slices of cake. CHARLIE ROSE: Any- what was the most difficult hurdle to overcome? CHARLIE ROSE: And they react with each other and so everything has to be different. CHARLIE ROSE: Answering Tolkien's question about himself, what period of history would you prefer to have lived in? CHARLIE ROSE: Because you live in New Zealand? CHARLIE ROSE: And cellphones. CHARLIE ROSE: What is that about? CHARLIE ROSE: It's storytelling, too. CHARLIE ROSE: No, but the attraction of you and movies is it gives you the tools to tell stories. CHARLIE ROSE: Could you have made A Beautiful Mind? CHARLIE ROSE: In the Bedroom, you could have made? CHARLIE ROSE: Could you make King Kong? CHARLIE ROSE: Why? CHARLIE ROSE: Will you ever get the chance to make it? CHARLIE ROSE: I assume the chances they'll do that is accelerated because of Lord of the Rings. CHARLIE ROSE: She's been our partner for- in the filmmaking business for a while.
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Conversation with IAEA Director General with Charlie RoseCharlie Rose Show.Watch Interview »
Conversation with Charlie RoseCharlie Rose Show with Charlie Rose30 October 2007videoWatch InterviewROSE: Welcome to the broadcast.ROSE: ... Mohamed ElBaradei is here.ELBARADEI: Thank you very much, Charlie, for having me.ROSE: You are - I should say this, too - you are an avid New York Knicks fan.ELBARADEI: Absolutely.ROSE: So you have gone through - you know how to deal with suffering.ELBARADEI: For at least 25 years now.ROSE: Let me just start with where we are.ELBARADEI: Sure.ROSE: In terms of the Iranian question.Why do we have the question marks, Charlie?I mean, the scenario goes like this, Charlie, that if Iran were to have the enrichment technology, they would kick the inspectors out, then they would go for a nuclear weapon, and then they would pursue an aggressive foreign policy in the region.ROSE: And they say they´re a signatory to the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty.ROSE: And they also said they don´t trust contracts.And when you really talk about the nuclear issue, is one part of the whole puzzle of the Middle East, Charlie.It´s Iraq.It´s Afghanistan.It´s Lebanon.It´s the Israeli issue.It´s human rights.ROSE: OK, but let me just ask a question that most of us want to know.ELBARADEI: Sure.ROSE: If the United States says, "stop enrichment and we´ll negotiate"?ROSE: Why won´t they do that?ROSE: They just changed their negotiator, by the way.ROSE: Is local.ROSE: Let´s just take both of them and what they need to do, OK?ROSE: Iran says, "why should we stop this?All we want to do is to make it possible to have nuclear power."ELBARADEI: Sure.ROSE: What should the United States do to come to the table?ROSE: But haven´t they done that?There is a lot of distrust, Charlie.ROSE: That is exactly the heart of it.ROSE: One final - one small step at a time until we have ... ELBARADEI: Absolutely.ROSE: ... developed mutual reciprocity.ROSE: Take a risk for peace.ROSE: That´s what they´ve got to do.ROSE: When the United States starts talking World War III, as the president did - you know, and lots of people talk about - you know, you´ve got to have - you know, you have to keep on the table the possibility of a military eventuality.If nothing else - if all else fails.ELBARADEI: Yeah.ROSE: Does that contribute to confidence-building?Does that have an impact on confidence-building?ELBARADEI: It worries me a great deal, Charlie, when we talk about use of force when there is absolutely no reason to speak about use of force today.ROSE: Do they agree as to how far off it might be if they wanted one?ROSE: But the president has made clear they want to negotiate rather than bomb.ELBARADEI: Absolutely.ROSE: They´ve made clear that they want to settle this.There is no military solution to it, and I think when people talk military solution and muscle flexing, they simply scare the hell out of all those in Iran, Charlie, who want to negotiate.ROSE: You know, there are some say that in the White House, even within the White House, but within the Government, there are two points of view about this.ROSE: OK.Is there any indication that you have - because you talk to them, you were in Tehran - any indication that there is a deal they´re willing to make?There is a place where they will give up something to have an agreement?ELBARADEI: I think everybody in Iran would like to have a regular, normal relationship with the U.S. Iran is quite different, frankly, from the Arab world, Charlie - you know, when you have people in the Arab world are angry vis-a-vis some of the U.S. policies and the government are friendly.ROSE: The government is unfriendly; the people admiring.ROSE: But is there interest - because if you look at what they say, you don´t see a lot of interest, at least the President, who I interviewed for an hour, as you know, here.ROSE: Because there is an election.ROSE: And should be.ROSE: But most people assume that Ayatollah Khamenei has the power, because they control the Defense Ministry and the principal elements of government, the military.I think the bottom line of that, Charlie - Iran feels that they are a powerful country in the Middle Eastern region, and they are.I think they are one.ROSE: Don´t you think the United States recognizes that?Or not?ROSE: I think that´s a crucial point.So tell me how the Iranians would believe that.What would the United States have to do to make the Iranians understand that they respect them and they admire their culture and they want to - and they respect their - their influence in the region?ELBARADEI: I think all that could only come, Charlie, through negotiation.ROSE: Iraq is a problem for the U.S.-Iranian relationship?ROSE: They have not done it with respect to Israeli-Palestinian issues, because they support Hamas.They haven´t done it with respect to Iraq.But I personally believe, coming from that region, Charlie, that Iran could be a very positive - could have a very positive impact, because Iran has a lot of influence in Iraq, in Afghanistan, in Palestine, in Lebanon.And so it could be a win-win situation to start the negotiations between the U.S. and Iran.And the earlier we do that, I think - I think the better for the entire - not only the entire world but particularly the Middle East, which could not have gotten - could not have gotten any worse than what it is today.ROSE: How bad is it?ROSE: But you can´t just explain that away, as you well know.You can´t explain it´s easy to do that and rage is a powerful factor.I mean, Islamic extremism is a factor in the world.ELBARADEI: Oh, absolutely.ROSE: It really is.ROSE: Nobody fears it more than many of the Arab states.ROSE: Even though a lot of it comes from ... ROSE: I´m asking you to help us out because ... ROSE: So what do you call them, then?And what I would like - you see, because it is very important, Charlie, that we - at this stage, we need to reach out to the 1.2 billion Muslims who feel that they are being stereotyped, who feel they are being stopped at airports, and basically tell them, we need to reach out to each other.ROSE: It is the tragedy of the Middle East.ROSE: That there are all these economic awards for the benefit of people.ROSE: Available if they could get - everybody could get past, in some grand bargain, the Israeli-Palestinian issue.ROSE: The Iranian issue.The democracy issue.Participation by more people.You know, it´s going through basically using soft power to get these people - treat people like human beings, they will act like human beings, Charlie.ROSE: What would you do about Iraq if you were in the United States shoes now?Today?ROSE: Don´t you think - for all the problems, all the mistakes, all the tragedy, all the horror, all the suffering, that there have been efforts to engage the neighbors?ROSE: But I´m not sure there is any evidence that Iran is trying to contribute to that at this point.ROSE: If they sat at the table on a broad conversation.Absolutely, Charlie, yes.ROSE: How do you factor in - and tell me what the reality of this is - the notion that - the notion that Iran has - the fear of the United States, as you know better than anyone, is that the Iranians are simply playing for time, playing for time, and the more they cannot have - and have you in and listen to what you have to say and listen to your proposals.The problem, I should say, Charlie, unfortunately we still continue to live in a world where people see that having nuclear weapons is a means of power, of prestige and of a shield.ROSE: And it´s viewed with a certain element of hypocrisy.ROSE: There is this, also, and how do you - it seems to me two things I want to ask you about, two big ideas.Number one is the power of an idea that is to your advantage to give up nuclear weapons or the ambition.Perhaps North Korea would be an example of that, perhaps.Perhaps Libya in some other way was an example of that.That if, in fact, the world com
6 November 2009 | In an interview with Charlie Rose, IAEA Director General Mohamed ElBaradei discusses his twelve-year tenure at the helm of the Agency.
Charlie Rose Interviews Mohamed ElBaradei Charlie Rose, the host of an acclaimed current affairs program on the Public Broadcasting System network, conducted a one-on-one interview with IAEA Director General Mohamed ElBaradei in New York. Charlie Rose Interviews Mohamed ElBaradei Charlie Rose, the host of an acclaimed current affairs program on the Public Broadcasting System network, conducted a one-on-one interview with IAEA Director General Mohamed ElBaradei in New York.