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Wrong Charles Bryce?

Mr. Charles Bryce E.

Director of Administration

Living Church of God

HQ Phone: (704) 844-1970

Living Church of God

2301 Crown Centre Dr

Charlotte, North Carolina 28227

United States

Company Description

The Living Church of God, founded by Roderick C. Meredith, is a nontrinitarian, sabbatarian sect based on the teachings of the late Herbert W. Armstrong, founder of the Worldwide Church of God. ... more

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Background Information

Employment History

President of the Canadian Board and Regional Director
The United Church of God-AIA

Canadian Regional Director
Living Church of God Canada

Director
CAD

Affiliations

Founder
Enduring Church of God

Founder
Enduring Church of God

Web References (58 Total References)


News of Those Once Affiliated with the Global Church of God

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In 2006, Charles Bryce who was in GCG and LCG left, and formed the Enduring Church of God (En COG). (More news specifically on LCG is at the News of the Living Church of God page.) A couple of people, like Norman Edwards (Servants' News), left GCG well before the 1998 takeover.

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I have received two emails related to the health of EnCOG's Charles Bryce. Here is what seems to be the situation according to one email:
It appears that he did not have an anurism, but had an inner ear problem that caused him to start vomiting -- he could not stop and he went in to the hospital so they could control it. HE said he is feeling good and on his way home.
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In September 2006, Syd Hull left LCG for RCG, but left RCG in 2007 to be with Charles Bryce (who left LCG in late 2006).
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At the Feast of Tabernacles in Oxnard in 2006, Charles Bryce essentially told LCG members that makeup was no big deal and no one should leave the church because of it. In November 2006, he changed his mind and left and proclaimed makeup as a major issue. At the end of December 2006 he came up with the Enduring Church of God. When Syd Hull left RCG to join EnCOG in early 2007, Charles Bryce claimed that his group would finish the work to proclaim the gospel to the world as a witness.
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As I stated in the letter--the fruits were not there---what I felt they needed to be, honesty and uncompromising---after conversing with a minister there and trying to get some answers on some of their teachings from Mr. Bryce himself, sending him a letter with questions and very humbly asking for his response ---for my understanding and benefit---he never even responded.
Sad to say, it is no surprise to me that his web site is not up, nor is it a surprise that he still is not proclaiming the Gospel with any kind of significance, in order to help others.
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So here is Mr. Bryce, saying the gospel is not for this age but for the future, while denying that Salvation is a part of the gospel, but says it is a "different" message, a direct contradiction to HWA. This may be why, 6 months after he promised to begin on his own web site to preach the gospel, it is still non-existent.
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As anyone can see, if they are really looking for the truth, Charles Bryce has rejected the teaching of HWA as well as denying what scriptures clearly reveal, written by other Apostles. (Mark 1:14-15 and ch.
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16:15-16) So it is no real wonder why Mr. Bryce has not lived up to other promises he has made.
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3. As of this morning, Charles Bryce's En COG still does not have any media or internet presence.
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An unofficial "LCG" forum has a letter purportedly from Charles Bryce that states:
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I feel that Charles Bryce really left LCG for the same real reason that Syd Hull did (David Pack is a different matter)--personal pride.
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Charles Bryce seems to be following UCG's pattern by trying to attract members first and then later figure out how public proclamation fits into his mission (RCG acted somewhat similarly). An article of related interest may be Are the Laodiceans the Modern Sadducees and Pharisees?
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I will state here that I understand that many things are easier said than done--undoubtedly Charles Bryce is now working on many things. And eventually, I believe he will get a website. (FWIW, I set up the initial cogwriter site in a day or so at no charge and with no cost--it originally was an AOL free site.


News of Those Once Affiliated with the Global Church of God

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In 2006, Charles Bryce who was in GCG and LCG left, and formed the Enduring Church of God (En COG). (More news specifically on LCG is at the News of the Living Church of God page.) In 2010, several of the main leaders who went with UCG left it.


News of Those Once Affiliated with the Global Church of God

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In 2006, Charles Bryce who was in GCG and LCG left, with apparent hopes others would follow him--what he will do is unclear.

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Charles Bryce (former LCG minister) states: "LCG seems to be preaching a mixed, confusing message about the gospel, i.e. that the gospel is the good news of forgiveness of our sins through Christ's sacrifice and of the soon-coming kingdom and government of God and the name of Jesus Christ. There seems to be a movement toward the gospel about Christ and the gospel of salvation. Mr. Bryce uses only one scripture to define the Gospel (Mark 1:14-15) and then refers to the warning in Galatians 1:8-9 about preaching a different Gospel.
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However, Mr. Apartian and I who knew Mr. Armstrong fifty times better than Mr. Bryce spent thousands of hours with him both recognize-as Mr. Ames stated-"Mr.
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But we do intend to follow Jesus Christ and His standards-not the ideas brought up in different ways by the likes of Gerald Flurry, David Pack and Charles Bryce.
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Brethren, this past Sunday, I called Mr. Bryce and talked to him for about 45 minutes...He then went on to directly discuss--this was at his instigation--the fact that he would "have to resign, lose his salary, lose his lease car, lose his computer and his health plan. So he directly spelled out that he was going to quit and "do something else."
Brethren, it was very clear that he intended to bolt the Living Church of God and start another organization--teaching people his approach to what I feel is his type of Pharisaical doctrine and not the full, balanced Truth of the Bible.
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As many of you are already aware, Mr. Charles Bryce informed us last week that he has serious doctrinal differences with the Living Church of God (on wearing makeup, the explanation of Church eras, the definition of the gospel and Church mission, appropriate meeting halls, etc). He informed Mr. Meredith and me several times during phone conversations that it would be a waste of time to come to Charlotte to discuss the matter and that he would have to resign. Due to the adamant position that he has taken and his subsequent release of his list of issues to the entire ministry, we have had to terminate Mr. Bryce from being a minister with the Living Church of God. This was not a decision that we wanted to make, yet it was necessary for the protection of the Church and brethren. It is certainly our hope that Mr. Bryce will reconsider his actions. Up until last week, Mr. Bryce gave us no indication that he had serious concerns about any of these issues. He did not mention these issues during the years he served on the Council of Elders (he chose to resign from the Council a year ago when he moved to Texas ). While he was Director of CAD he also had the opportunity to suggest changes in these areas, but nothing was said.
Brethren, we need to remember a number of important principles when it comes to drawing conclusions about doctrine. We are told that there is safety in a multitude of counsel (Proverbs 11:14) and that we should be extremely careful about drawing conclusions that seem right to us as individuals (Proverbs 14:12). The Scriptures inform us that the Church is given the charge to determine doctrine, not individuals (I Timothy 3:15), and we see how this operated at the council meeting in Acts 15. It is regrettable that Mr. Bryce did not follow these principles in this most recent situation. From calls that we have made around the country, it appears that very few ministers or members are sympathetic with the ideas in Mr. Bryce's letter.
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In his November 28, 2006 letter, Charles Bryce actually claimed the following:
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Regarding the gospel mentioned in the third point, LCG's Official Statement of Fundamental Beliefs that Charles Bryce approved in November 2002 has not changed (this statement was even published in The Journal then). Since Charles Bryce seems to be objecting to LCG's teaching on the gospel, let's quote the statement he had to have approved in its entirety:
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Here is Charles Bryce's recent earring charge:
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Hopefully, Charles Bryce will understand that and reconsider what he has done.
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12/06/06 p.m. While I believe that LCG made some mistakes in the handling of the Bryce/Solomon matter, my reading of Charles Bryce's recent writings remind me of what Syd Hull wrote when he went with RCG (although Charles Bryce made a MUCH bigger deal of makeup, than did Syd Hull).
They both inaccurately claimed that LCG made certain significant doctrinal changes in recent times, which simply did not happen. Few, if any, of the items that Charles Bryce raised are taught any different in LCG now than they were years ago. LCG's Official Statement of Fundamental Beliefs, which I believe Charles Bryce and Syd Hull approved four years ago, differs in many ways from positions they are now advocating.
As I have already addressed makeup as well HWA's understanding of the gospel in other articles, I at this time, see no point in a blow-by-blow rebuttal of Charles Bryce's positions on those and other areas, other than to say that I am saddened that he no longer wishes to support LCG.
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12/06/06 a.m. Per the posting at the AW site, Charles Bryce wrote:
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Mr. Charles Bryce's letter to the ministry just came on the e-mail and certainly deserves an answer. Sadly to say, Mr. Bryce puts an unusual "spin"-as is often the case-on what actually has been happening. On his third point, he says that he and I talked on the phone to discuss the "situation that we had a very congenial brotherly talk which concluded with friendship. What Mr. Bryce does not mention is that he definitely indicated that he would not come into Charlotte, that he saw "no reason" to come into Charlotte since we had our "iron clad" position and that he, also, had his iron clad position. He made it very plain that he would not be coming. Then, I asked him very plainly, "Are you then going to split the Church, Charles?
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Bryce and Solomon from the ministry of the Living Church of God and from their membership therein.
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They clearly intend to follow their version of "Armstrongism"-directing their people to give up make-up, stop acknowledging there are other true churches of God, and presenting the Gospel only as the "Gospel of the Kingdom of God"-not mentioning in that context the "Good News of forgiveness of sins through Christ's sacrifice" which Mr. Bryce clearly condemned in his letter to us.
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Charles Bryce has possibly formed his own group.
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He expresses that he is unhappy with a number of doctrines and teachings now, that seems a little strange to me, however, as Charles was with us for the last 11 or 12 years and suddenly decides to get upset now all of a sudden.
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Mr. Bryce goes on to say that this is wrong-indicating that we should not recognize these other groups as Churches of God...
We are not ever going to change or modify the Sabbath, the Holy Days or any basic doctrines-as I am sure you all know. But we do intend to follow Jesus Christ and His standards-not the ideas brought up in different ways by the likes of Gerald Flurry, David Pack and Charles Bryce.
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I hope the above information can help you answer the questions of our brethren as they hear about Mr. Bryce's defection-along with his son-in-law, Larry Solomon, and perhaps a number of local elders or those who decide to join in this division which they are causing within the Church of God.
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I am sorry that Charles Bryce has left.


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Ogwyn and other church leaders have said the Feb. 26 sermon was a non-controversial one given by Charles Bryce, the church's director of administration.


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Ogwyn and other church leaders have said the Feb. 26 sermon was a non-controversial one given by Charles Bryce, the church's director of administration.

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