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William J. Schroer

Executive Director

American Association for Nude Recreation Inc

HQ Phone:  (407) 933-2064


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American Association for Nude Recreation Inc

1703 North Main St. Suite E

Kissimmee, Florida,34744

United States

Company Description

The American Association for Nude Recreation has promoted nudist family values at its nudist resorts and clubs since 1931. Whatever the level of amenities offered, all clubs are expected to adhere to AANR's principles and standards, honed from 79 years of expe...more

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Bill Schroer, New AANR Executive Director | American Association for Nude Recreation - Northwest [cached]

Bill Schroer, New AANR Executive Director
Bill Schroer, New AANR Executive Director AANR has a new executive director, Bill Schroer. Bill started in Kissimmee on May 1st, so he has spent just one week in his new position. From Battle Creek, MI, he is an active nudist and belongs to Turtle Lake Resort near Battle Creek. Bill was featured in the Sharing Your Naturist Program in April's AANR Bulletin. Bill writes a column for the Battle Creek Enquirer. His latest column speaks to his passion for nudism. Life is about pursuing a passion - find yours Bill will join us at the AANR-NW Convention at Kaniksu in mid-July where we will get a chance to meet him.

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Bill Schroer Goes On The Record About AANR by YNA [cached]

Bill Schroer Goes On The Record About AANR
Bill Schroer Goes on The Record About Being Fired By AANR For those of you who are just now finding out about this issue, you may want to read our first two articles about AANR and Bill: Beverly B. Price president of AANR Fired Bill Schroer - WTF?!?! and AANR Nudist Clubs Ratings And Update On The Firing Of Bill Schroer. For those who might not know, Bill was recruited by AANR. He went through the interview process and then was hired by the American Association For Nude Recreation - AANR. I asked Bill how he felt about being approached and subsequently hired, last May, as their new executive director. Ever since the news came out about AANR firing Bill Schroer, there has been endless speculation and chatter about what happened. There have also been a lot of personal attacks and claims about Bill that just did not seem to add up. So naturally, I was very happy when Bill agreed to have a sit down with me and explain once and for all his perspective about what happened. In this article I will do my very best to explain the main issues and correct any misconceptions that I have been able to confirm based on my conversation with Bill, as well as other sources from within AANR (many of whom who were unwilling to be named or go on the record). So what really happened? Let's begin from the day Bill's contract with AANR was terminated. Bill Schroer Goes On The Record About AANR YNA Bill Schroer Goes On The Record About AANR On October 15 at 8:00 in the morning, Bill was sitting by his computer in his office when newly elected president of AANR, Beverly Price, walked into the room accompanied by Julie Erlenmeyer, who is on the Board of AANR Florida. (I assume that Beverly brought Julie in as a witness and because she works in Human Resources at a local theme park.) Bill, quite shocked by her statement, did not put up a fight nor argue. He simply acknowledged it, gathered his belongings, said goodbye to the staff and walked out. Since Bill accepted what she said without any argument, I asked him to explain why. Here is what he said: Since Bill had no information to provide, I had to look elsewhere to find the answer. * Bill, however refused to speculate. - Bill was advocating to include swinger lifestyle clubs into the AANR nudist club network. - Bill was treating his staff harshly, working them long past their normal work hours and not willing to pay overtime. - Bill had misused AANR funds and racked-up unexplainable expenditures. - Bill had decided on his own to get rid of AANR's lawyer and get a new one. - Bill was forcing AANR to restructure the organization based on the Carver model which is used by many other non-profit corporations. - Bill was trying to bypass the chain of command in order to push through his own personal agenda. I asked Bill point blank about these issues. Rumor #1: The AANR Rating System Bill explained that he was working on a rating system similar to the one that was put in place by the Motion Picture Association of America. His concept was to allow certain clubs that are CURRENTLY part of AANR to retain their AANR charter under this new rating system. The rating system would have addressed the fact some existing AANR clubs were operating outside the strict guidelines of the AANR system and complaints were being directed to him at the AANR office. Some clubs felt they had to engage in more adult theme activities on Saturday nights to attract an audience. He stated that he never intended it to go beyond that and never advocated to include new sexually-oriented swinger clubs. As we were talking, Bill noted an important fact. The term "adult activities" is somewhat ambiguous. So he explained that years ago, there were clubs that did not allow couples to dance together in the nude as that was considered too sexual / "adult." Today, most clubs host dances. While most people would agree that dancing with a loved one is not a problem, some clubs don't even agree on that. Bill believed a rating system would allow some flexibility within the AANR system so "one size didn't need to fit all." So what kinds of activities would be sanctioned by this new rating system? He explained that many would agree that "leather and lace" parties can, and most often do, have a sexual or adult connotation. Bill says that he was given no direction. Therefore he was doing what he thought and felt needed to be done. He says he kept all the executives and staff informed about his daily tasks and never went behind anyone's back or tried to exceed the powers granted to him by the AANR board. He was never in breach of his employment contract. He was never cautioned that he may not be spending his time effectively and he was never told that what he was doing was wrong. Bill explained that he never told nor demanded anyone to work overtime. He would discuss with the staff whether they were willing to put in overtime or not. It was largely the staff person's call. No one was forced to put in overtime on a consistent basis and especially not for free. There was also a rumor that he was forcing employees to become exempt employees (as in not eligible for overtime pay). Again, Bill explained, that was an inaccurate portrayal of what happened. There were some employees who were managers or directors who legitimately are "exempt" from being paid overtime (due to their employment contract and salary arrangement). In his capacity as the ED, he was clarifying and communicating the correct rules with selected members of the staff. He went on to say that he enjoyed working with the staff and was pretty sure that the feeling was mutual. When he was fired, most expressed shock and sadness. One of the people he worked with even reached out to him recently to express the fact that he is missed. *As a side note... Bill was fired 2 days before his birthday. The staff was actually planning a surprise office party and cake to mark the occasion. That does not give me the impression of a tyrannical slave driver boss who is hated by his subordinates. So I think it is safe to say that while sometimes things do happen in a work setting and while people do bump heads in any workplace, in my opinion this was more than likely not the reason Bill was fired from AANR. Rumor #3: Bill had misused AANR funds and racked up unexplainable expenditures I heard this reason being talked about in a few places and from a number of people. When asked, Bill said that he is unaware of any such actual claims. The only thing he could think of was his meeting with some Florida free beach people and the Bare Necessities Cruise team during a trip to Haulover Beach. Bill, a long time NAC and TNS activist, has made friends in both organizations. While employed by AANR, he felt it was time to bridge the divide and try to heal some of the old wounds. As such, he met with a number of people from the Free Beaches Movement in Florida and the Bare Necessities Cruise team. He wanted to talk about having a more cooperative relationship with all groups that share the same basic ideals. After the meeting, he took them out to dinner. Rumor #4: Bill was meeting clubs that were removed from AANR due to sexual activities with the purpose of reinstating their AANR charter. I asked bill flat out if he met with clubs like Caliente and Paradise Lakes in his official capacity as the AANR executive director. And if so, what were the goals and reasons for doing so? Bill confirmed that he did visit both Caliente and Paradise Lakes and added a third resort to that list - Gulf Coast Resort. He said that the purpose was part of an orientation to clubs which used to be part of the AANR nudist club network. He was hoping to better understand what their behavior policies are and said that he absolutely was not encouraging them to return. As part of the research he was doing on the rating system, he wanted to understand how much distance there was between a place like Paradise Lakes (where the homeowners association is still part of AANR) and the formal AANR guidelines. That was his only purpose for visiting those clubs. Sounds like a good and plausible reason. Since I was unable to find any information that would indicate otherwise, as far as I am concerned, I can scratch that reason off the list. Rumor #5: Bill had decided on his own to get rid of AANR's lawyer and get a new one. When confronted with this question Bill said that was not inaccurate. Bill said that in consultation with the Beverly Price, he felt that AANR did in fact need a new attorney. Bill felt that it was a major issue that their current Indiana-based attorney, Jawn Bauer, was not licensed to practice in Florida. Rumor #6: Bill was forcing AANR to restructure based on the Carver model Bill felt that the current structure of AANR was too cumbersome. The organization itself was structured in a way that making changes, course corrections, decisions and so forth was an extremely difficult and lengthy process. He felt that it would make things clearer, and the decision making process and implementation far easier by converting to the Carver model. Again, Bill pointed out that this move would only happen if the board agreed with his assessment. While Bill himself is a Carver trained professional, he did not want there to be even the appearance of him being biased. Therefore he researched and found a local Carver professional that he recommended AANR speak to. Since, as far as I can tell, he did not try to force this on AANR, I think it is safe to say that I will scratch it off the list of reasons why Bill was let go. Rumor #7: Bill was trying to bypass the chain of command in order to push through his own personal agenda, such as the new AANR guide he wanted to publish Bill immediately dismissed that accusation. He reiterated that not once had he gone behind anyone's back. He kept everyone up to date on every aspect of his doings. He had never tried to push through anything and reiterated the fact that all he was allowed to do, based on the terms and conditions of his employment, was to make recommendations to the board. If the board decided to accept or reject his recommendations, that was up to them to decide. He was just doing what he was hired to do: identify weaknesses and address them. But what about the new AANR club guide that the board had voted not to pursue - why pursue it anyway? Bill explained that no one, including the board, ever said anything about not publishing a new AANR club guide. Apparently, they knew he was looking at it and he heard there were concerns about the cost. Apparently there was a rumor that Bill was pushing ahead with a rating system in the guide even though the rating system was not approved. In fact, Bill did consider putting the ratings into the club questionnaire (which must go out a year in advance of the Guide being published). Bill concluded with a thought about the need for clear ongoing communications. But now that I have gone through the main issues (that I am aware of) with members, supporters and / or officials of AANR as well as after speaking with Bill directly, I can safely say that I have no clue as to what lead to the terminations of Bill's employment contract. What I can say is that I have heard some really nasty accusations after the fact about what Bill was doing and some even nastier ones about him as a person. While people tend to pass judgment before hearing the facts, I find such bully-like behavior to be quite off putting and downright mean! Now, for full disclosure, I have never met Bill personally, but I have been in communication with him for the last few years. Throughout that time, he has never, not once, given me any reason to second-guess his morals, ethics or actions. He has always been straightforward and direct - regardless of whether we agreed or not. He was always willing to give his honest opinion which indicates, to me at least, that he is not the kind of person that would conspire, gossip or go behind anyone's back (which is more than I can say for some). I am sorry to hear hear that Mr. Schroer was dismissed. I never met and or spoke with the man directly, but from what I have seen here, the man was held in high regard for his efforts and I certainly wish him the best and maybe some closure on this issue and possibly some answers.

What Has Some Judgmental Nudists Crying Foul by YNA [cached]

I hope that AANR's new Executive Director Bill Schroer addresses this issue soon.

Nudist Organizations | The Nudist Naturist Movement 1 [cached]

AANR Nudist Clubs & Firing of Bill Schroer
Bill Schroer Goes On The Record About AANR Bill Schroer Goes on The Record About Being Fired By AANR For those of you who are just now finding out about this issue, you may want to read our first two 149 comments Keep Reading AANR Nudist Clubs & Firing of Bill Schroer AANR Nudist Clubs Ratings And Update On The Firing Of Bill Schroer Update On Beverly B. Price, Bill Schroer and the AANR Nudist Club Ratings This post is by Jordan Blum Did Beverly Fire Bill Over The Issue Of AANR Nudist Clubs Ratings? Bill Schroer - Former Executive Director Of AANR Beverly B. Price, The New president of AANR, fires executive director Bill Schroer.

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