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Calvary Chapel Abuse

P.O. Box 34117

Indialantic, Florida 32903

United States

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01 Grenier Defamation Lawsuit Archive - Key Facts: People, Dates, and Documents | Calvary Chapel Abuse

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Grenier & Grenier v. Taylor & Grenier is a civil lawsuit that pits Pastor Bob Grenier of Calvary Chapel Visalia (California) and his wife Gayle against his step-son/her son Alex Grenier and against former CCV member Tim Taylor.

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Step-father of Alex and Geoff; father of Paul and Robert, Jr.
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Alex Grenier, a step-son of Bob/son of Gayle Grenier.
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This document, filed October 17, 2012, contains the allegations by Bob and Gayle Grenier of defamation and other contentions against the defendants, Tim Taylor and Alex Grenier.
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It was supplied to the court as a Declaration in support of the defendants, which include his half-brother Alex Grenier.
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Blood son alleges sexual abuse by Pastor Bob Grenier Calvary Chapel Visalia, on Alex Grenier's Calvary Chapel Abuse blog (April 6, 2011).
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Alex on Paul Grenier's Deposition to be sealed, emails released


05 Grenier Defamation Lawsuit Archive - #WhoWouldJesusSue Media Campaign | Calvary Chapel Abuse

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The defendants are Tim Taylor, a former member of Calvary Chapel Visalia, and Alex Grenier, a step-son of Bob/son of Gayle.

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OC Weekly, "Alex Grenier, Frequent Calvary Chapel Critic, Seeks to Have Defamation Lawsuit Filed by His Pastor Father Dismissed" - http://tinyurl.com/aj7omy8
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Alex on Paul Grenier's Deposition to be sealed, emails released


Basic Christian: Easter 10 Day Timeline Devotional Jesus Walk for The Evangelical Holy Week

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Continuing with our Holy Week 2010 preview - The 8 Kingdoms [Kings - Nimrod, Pharaoh Akhenaten, Nebuchadnezzar, Cyrus, Alexander the Great, Julius Caesar, Antichrist (Satan), Messiah (Jesus Christ)] of the earth - The Kingdom of Jesus Christ [specifically starting with His Triumphal Entry (as King of all creation - Luke 19:38-40) into Jerusalem] when His eternal Kingdom was initially established during His events of the original Holy Week in Jerusalem approximately 2,000 years ago

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The 5th Kingdom Greece and Alexander the Great [on either 10 or 11 June 323 B.C., Alexander the Great died in the palace of Nebuchadnezzar II, in Babylon at the age of 32 - wiki.com].
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A brief look and introduction into the 7 anointed Gentile Global Kings of the Earth (anointed from God) and the anointed 8th King Jesus Christ: Beginning with Nimrod (Tower of Babel - Genesis 10:8-10) -- Pharaoh Akhenaten (Egypt - Joseph's Pharaoh, the Dream Pharaoh - Genesis 41:1) -- Nebuchadnezzar (Babylon - Jeremiah 27:4-7, Daniel 2:37) -- Cyrus (Persia - Isaiah 45:1-7, Ezra 1:1-4) -- Alexander the Great (Greece - Daniel 8:21) -- Julius Caesar (Rome and The Revised [10 Kingdom] Roman Empire - Daniel 7:19) -- Antichrist [emerges from within the Revised Roman Empire] (Satan - Daniel 7:20) -- Messiah, Jesus Christ's Kingdom (Heaven and Earth - Daniel 2:35, Daniel 2:44-45)
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And the rough goat is the King of Grecia [Greece - 5th Kingdom]: and the great horn that is between his eyes is the first King [Alexander the Great]. Now that being broken, whereas four stood up for it, four Kingdoms [Ptolemaic kingdom of Egypt, the Seleucid Empire in the east, the kingdom of Pergamon in Asia Minor, and Macedon - wiki.com] shall stand up out of the Nation, but not in his power.
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I will be joined by a very special guest Alex Grenier of the website Calvary Chapel Abuse.


Posted by Alex at 8:01 ...

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Posted by Alex at 8:01 pmTagged with: Calvary Chapel San Antonio Universal City Texas youth instructor youth leader youth worker charged arrested for distributing child pornography by FBI

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Alex anyone who dares to say that "It's not Calvary Chapel's fault!
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Look around you-do you not have eyes to see and ears to listen-write a letter to Calvary Chapel Association, Petition your church leadership, Donate to Alex's Legal Fund and help to reform Calavry Chapel.
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Pastor who does have influence in the brand to stand up for Alex--there is no excuse. I don't care how long ago this took place. Alex and his brothers and his mother all need to be able to stand before their abuser to say to him what they need to in order to be restored and vindicated of the awful, terrible, horrendous years, days, months, hours, and minutes spent in being denied being heard by the church and its leader-because their abuser was and is a Pastor. For Calvary Chapel in part and as a whole to refuse to do what ought to have been done when this was first reported with the excuse that since BG was convicted, therefore, our hands are clean, is an out and out lie from the pit of hell. Since when does man's law supercede those things that needs to be investigated, judge, and discipline by the church, particularly when such behavior was done while holding a position of a Pastor?
In my mind, thinking about how far BG and CS go back with the other, I have to wonder if there is something that BG has on CS that has left Alex and his family under the bus. Hmm? Or is it just a simple case of CS possessing not an ounce of empathy for those who have been led to believe otherwise. I'm sorry, brother and sister, but even CS ought to be held for an account for white washing all of this, then acting as though Alex has victimized him instead.
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Igcognito, Alex has posted some sites that deals with spiritual abuse.
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So, hang in there and visit the sites that Alex has listed. Okay?
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If this guy hasn't realized it yet, Bob Guaglione is the top dog in this church and if you challenge him you will be black-balled as divisive exactly how Alex mentioned in the article.
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I asked Alex if it was OK to post a brief (I hope) comment on his blog relative to this incident.
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Alex promoted him to youth leader. This man is not a youth leader, an assitant pastor, or even a Bible instructor. He is simply a man who has been in our church for more than ten years who sometimes (only occasionally) assisted in children's ministry. As I said, he has been here ten years+ and never presented any problems whatsoever.
Additionally, like all of our children's ministry volunteers and staff, he was fully vetted before ever serving. He had no record and still does not until this incident.
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I have a few questions but will hold them until after Alex posts the interview, I suspect they will be answered then.
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Ron I will humbly say that I believe your comment above is filled with semantics, but you are definitely to be applauded for speaking to Alex, regardless of what your purpose is for doing so.
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But I'm glad Alex posted this article, not as a attack on Calvary Chapel (which he spinned to do so, but whatever, it's his blog) but to educate other about Holguin.
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"The vast majority of readers who read Alex's headline will think of someone with more responsibility than a teacher's aide.
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Alex, for months after we first met I encouraged you on the importance of your own personal accuracy given your call to truth, accountability and transparency of others. For your own credibility, back when you had the ear of several CC pastors, including mine.
I also learned a long time ago that when Alex Grenier sees something one way, there is no convincing otherwise.
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Pastor Write I am a long time reader of this and other blogs and Alex has been very kind to me, we have very little in "communion" in reality. I am extremely liberal, though Alex has changed my view on the second amendment issues of weapon ownership. I may never own a firearm because of family and personal issues, but I pray my neighbor is well armed if I need their help. I hope that makes some sense. As someone who sits in the cheap seats of the evangelical church, trust me Alex sits on the the 50 yard line compared to where I reside. I would offer another view, abuse is horrid, having dealt with it as has Alex.
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To ignore Alex's or anyone's complaint because it concerns someone who anyone has told you that it is not your business to be involved is a lie from the pit. You, who are a representative of the leadership of Calvary Chapel, wherever you are have a biblical mandate to step in on his behalf as well as the behalf any claim they have or are being victimized by such a one.
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4th Paragraph - last sentence :To ignore Alex's or anyone's complaint, because it someone has told you that it is not your business to be involved is a lie from the pit. You, who are a representative of the leadership of Calvary Chapel, wherever you are, have a biblical mandate to step in on his behalf of a person who claims they have been abused, no matter when it happened.
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The issues that Alex Grenier has concerning his stepfather, Bob Grenier has been put off far too long.
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You have completely missed the point of why Alex posted this.
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Ron is the same man who defended an accused abuser, when Alex was calling for someone in CC to look into the charges.


Alex anyone who dares to say ...

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Alex anyone who dares to say that "It's not Calvary Chapel's fault!

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Look around you-do you not have eyes to see and ears to listen-write a letter to Calvary Chapel Association, Petition your church leadership, Donate to Alex's Legal Fund and help to reform Calavry Chapel.
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Pastor who does have influence in the brand to stand up for Alex--there is no excuse. I don't care how long ago this took place. Alex and his brothers and his mother all need to be able to stand before their abuser to say to him what they need to in order to be restored and vindicated of the awful, terrible, horrendous years, days, months, hours, and minutes spent in being denied being heard by the church and its leader-because their abuser was and is a Pastor. For Calvary Chapel in part and as a whole to refuse to do what ought to have been done when this was first reported with the excuse that since BG was convicted, therefore, our hands are clean, is an out and out lie from the pit of hell. Since when does man's law supercede those things that needs to be investigated, judge, and discipline by the church, particularly when such behavior was done while holding a position of a Pastor?
In my mind, thinking about how far BG and CS go back with the other, I have to wonder if there is something that BG has on CS that has left Alex and his family under the bus. Hmm? Or is it just a simple case of CS possessing not an ounce of empathy for those who have been led to believe otherwise. I'm sorry, brother and sister, but even CS ought to be held for an account for white washing all of this, then acting as though Alex has victimized him instead.
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Igcognito, Alex has posted some sites that deals with spiritual abuse.
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So, hang in there and visit the sites that Alex has listed. Okay?
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If this guy hasn't realized it yet, Bob Guaglione is the top dog in this church and if you challenge him you will be black-balled as divisive exactly how Alex mentioned in the article.
...
I asked Alex if it was OK to post a brief (I hope) comment on his blog relative to this incident.
...
Alex promoted him to youth leader. This man is not a youth leader, an assitant pastor, or even a Bible instructor. He is simply a man who has been in our church for more than ten years who sometimes (only occasionally) assisted in children's ministry. As I said, he has been here ten years+ and never presented any problems whatsoever.
Additionally, like all of our children's ministry volunteers and staff, he was fully vetted before ever serving. He had no record and still does not until this incident.
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I have a few questions but will hold them until after Alex posts the interview, I suspect they will be answered then.
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Ron I will humbly say that I believe your comment above is filled with semantics, but you are definitely to be applauded for speaking to Alex, regardless of what your purpose is for doing so.
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But I'm glad Alex posted this article, not as a attack on Calvary Chapel (which he spinned to do so, but whatever, it's his blog) but to educate other about Holguin.
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"The vast majority of readers who read Alex's headline will think of someone with more responsibility than a teacher's aide.
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Alex, for months after we first met I encouraged you on the importance of your own personal accuracy given your call to truth, accountability and transparency of others. For your own credibility, back when you had the ear of several CC pastors, including mine.
I also learned a long time ago that when Alex Grenier sees something one way, there is no convincing otherwise.
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Pastor Write I am a long time reader of this and other blogs and Alex has been very kind to me, we have very little in "communion" in reality. I am extremely liberal, though Alex has changed my view on the second amendment issues of weapon ownership. I may never own a firearm because of family and personal issues, but I pray my neighbor is well armed if I need their help. I hope that makes some sense. As someone who sits in the cheap seats of the evangelical church, trust me Alex sits on the the 50 yard line compared to where I reside. I would offer another view, abuse is horrid, having dealt with it as has Alex.
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To ignore Alex's or anyone's complaint because it concerns someone who anyone has told you that it is not your business to be involved is a lie from the pit. You, who are a representative of the leadership of Calvary Chapel, wherever you are have a biblical mandate to step in on his behalf as well as the behalf any claim they have or are being victimized by such a one.
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4th Paragraph - last sentence :To ignore Alex's or anyone's complaint, because it someone has told you that it is not your business to be involved is a lie from the pit. You, who are a representative of the leadership of Calvary Chapel, wherever you are, have a biblical mandate to step in on his behalf of a person who claims they have been abused, no matter when it happened.
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The issues that Alex Grenier has concerning his stepfather, Bob Grenier has been put off far too long.
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You have completely missed the point of why Alex posted this.
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Ron is the same man who defended an accused abuser, when Alex was calling for someone in CC to look into the charges.

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