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Alex Joye Grenier

Wrong Alex Joye Grenier?

Representative of the Leadership

Calvary Chapel Abuse
PO Box 34117
Indialantic, Florida 32903
United States

 
Background

Employment History

12 Total References
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Grenier & Grenier v. Taylor & ...
calvarychapelabuse.com, 9 Jan 2014 [cached]
Grenier & Grenier v. Taylor & Grenier is a civil lawsuit that pits Pastor Bob Grenier of Calvary Chapel Visalia (California) and his wife Gayle against his step-son/her son Alex Grenier and against former CCV member Tim Taylor.
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Step-father of Alex and Geoff; father of Paul and Robert, Jr.
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Alex Grenier, a step-son of Bob/son of Gayle Grenier.
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This document, filed October 17, 2012, contains the allegations by Bob and Gayle Grenier of defamation and other contentions against the defendants, Tim Taylor and Alex Grenier.
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It was supplied to the court as a Declaration in support of the defendants, which include his half-brother Alex Grenier.
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Blood son alleges sexual abuse by Pastor Bob Grenier Calvary Chapel Visalia, on Alex Grenier's Calvary Chapel Abuse blog (April 6, 2011).
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Alex on The phone call to Chuck Smith of Calvary Chapel: Alex Joye Grenier discusses the bad dynamic in Calvary Chapel and we confront Chuck Smith live on radio
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Alex on The phone call to Chuck Smith of Calvary Chapel: Alex Joye Grenier discusses the bad dynamic in Calvary Chapel and we confront Chuck Smith live on radio
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American on The phone call to Chuck Smith of Calvary Chapel: Alex Joye Grenier discusses the bad dynamic in Calvary Chapel and we confront Chuck Smith live on radio
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Alex on Calvary Chapel Tucson buys an FM radio station for $75,000
Posted by Alex at 8:01 ...
calvarychapelabuse.com, 7 Dec 2012 [cached]
Posted by Alex at 8:01 pmTagged with: Calvary Chapel San Antonio Universal City Texas youth instructor youth leader youth worker charged arrested for distributing child pornography by FBI
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Alex anyone who dares to say that "It's not Calvary Chapel's fault!
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Look around you-do you not have eyes to see and ears to listen-write a letter to Calvary Chapel Association, Petition your church leadership, Donate to Alex's Legal Fund and help to reform Calavry Chapel.
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Pastor who does have influence in the brand to stand up for Alex--there is no excuse. I don't care how long ago this took place. Alex and his brothers and his mother all need to be able to stand before their abuser to say to him what they need to in order to be restored and vindicated of the awful, terrible, horrendous years, days, months, hours, and minutes spent in being denied being heard by the church and its leader-because their abuser was and is a Pastor. For Calvary Chapel in part and as a whole to refuse to do what ought to have been done when this was first reported with the excuse that since BG was convicted, therefore, our hands are clean, is an out and out lie from the pit of hell. Since when does man's law supercede those things that needs to be investigated, judge, and discipline by the church, particularly when such behavior was done while holding a position of a Pastor?
In my mind, thinking about how far BG and CS go back with the other, I have to wonder if there is something that BG has on CS that has left Alex and his family under the bus. Hmm? Or is it just a simple case of CS possessing not an ounce of empathy for those who have been led to believe otherwise. I'm sorry, brother and sister, but even CS ought to be held for an account for white washing all of this, then acting as though Alex has victimized him instead.
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Igcognito, Alex has posted some sites that deals with spiritual abuse.
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So, hang in there and visit the sites that Alex has listed. Okay?
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If this guy hasn't realized it yet, Bob Guaglione is the top dog in this church and if you challenge him you will be black-balled as divisive exactly how Alex mentioned in the article.
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I asked Alex if it was OK to post a brief (I hope) comment on his blog relative to this incident.
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Alex promoted him to youth leader. This man is not a youth leader, an assitant pastor, or even a Bible instructor. He is simply a man who has been in our church for more than ten years who sometimes (only occasionally) assisted in children's ministry. As I said, he has been here ten years+ and never presented any problems whatsoever.
Additionally, like all of our children's ministry volunteers and staff, he was fully vetted before ever serving. He had no record and still does not until this incident.
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I have a few questions but will hold them until after Alex posts the interview, I suspect they will be answered then.
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Ron I will humbly say that I believe your comment above is filled with semantics, but you are definitely to be applauded for speaking to Alex, regardless of what your purpose is for doing so.
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But I'm glad Alex posted this article, not as a attack on Calvary Chapel (which he spinned to do so, but whatever, it's his blog) but to educate other about Holguin.
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"The vast majority of readers who read Alex's headline will think of someone with more responsibility than a teacher's aide.
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Alex, for months after we first met I encouraged you on the importance of your own personal accuracy given your call to truth, accountability and transparency of others. For your own credibility, back when you had the ear of several CC pastors, including mine.
I also learned a long time ago that when Alex Grenier sees something one way, there is no convincing otherwise.
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Pastor Write I am a long time reader of this and other blogs and Alex has been very kind to me, we have very little in "communion" in reality. I am extremely liberal, though Alex has changed my view on the second amendment issues of weapon ownership. I may never own a firearm because of family and personal issues, but I pray my neighbor is well armed if I need their help. I hope that makes some sense. As someone who sits in the cheap seats of the evangelical church, trust me Alex sits on the the 50 yard line compared to where I reside. I would offer another view, abuse is horrid, having dealt with it as has Alex.
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To ignore Alex's or anyone's complaint because it concerns someone who anyone has told you that it is not your business to be involved is a lie from the pit. You, who are a representative of the leadership of Calvary Chapel, wherever you are have a biblical mandate to step in on his behalf as well as the behalf any claim they have or are being victimized by such a one.
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4th Paragraph - last sentence :To ignore Alex's or anyone's complaint, because it someone has told you that it is not your business to be involved is a lie from the pit. You, who are a representative of the leadership of Calvary Chapel, wherever you are, have a biblical mandate to step in on his behalf of a person who claims they have been abused, no matter when it happened.
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The issues that Alex Grenier has concerning his stepfather, Bob Grenier has been put off far too long.
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You have completely missed the point of why Alex posted this.
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Ron is the same man who defended an accused abuser, when Alex was calling for someone in CC to look into the charges.
The defendants are Tim Taylor, a ...
calvarychapelabuse.com [cached]
The defendants are Tim Taylor, a former member of Calvary Chapel Visalia, and Alex Grenier, a step-son of Bob/son of Gayle.
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OC Weekly, "Alex Grenier, Frequent Calvary Chapel Critic, Seeks to Have Defamation Lawsuit Filed by His Pastor Father Dismissed" - http://tinyurl.com/aj7omy8
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Alex on The phone call to Chuck Smith of Calvary Chapel: Alex Joye Grenier discusses the bad dynamic in Calvary Chapel and we confront Chuck Smith live on radio
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Alex on The phone call to Chuck Smith of Calvary Chapel: Alex Joye Grenier discusses the bad dynamic in Calvary Chapel and we confront Chuck Smith live on radio
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American on The phone call to Chuck Smith of Calvary Chapel: Alex Joye Grenier discusses the bad dynamic in Calvary Chapel and we confront Chuck Smith live on radio
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Alex on Calvary Chapel Tucson buys an FM radio station for $75,000
The defendants are Tim Taylor, a ...
calvarychapelabuse.com [cached]
The defendants are Tim Taylor, a former member of Calvary Chapel Visalia, and Alex Grenier, a step-son of Bob/son of Gayle Grenier.
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For a detailed account, watch for a new document, "Alex Grenier's Account of Attempts to Bring Bob Grenier to Accountability," which is edited from sources Alex provided.
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Alex remained silent until 2009, when his wife found an online forum of former Calvary Chapel Visalia church members, who share their personal accounts of spiritual abuse.
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The forum went viral and, in July 2010, Alex began a spiritual abuse survivor blog-Calvary Chapel Abuse. From there, news of the allegations about Bob Grenier spread, as did investigations into various kinds of abuses of spiritual authority within the Calvary Chapel franchise. The website received over 3 million hits in its first three years (2010-2012).
How does the national Calvary Chapel association figure into this case?
As implied by its name - Calvary Chapel Abuse - Alex Grenier's blog covers not only issues specific to Calvary Chapel Visalia, but also for other abuses and controversies in Pastor Chuck Smith's Calvary Chapel franchise of churches.
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Like those in other controversies involving Calvary Chapel members, Alex Grenier was also unsuccessful in attempts to have Pastor Chuck Smith or any other national Calvary Chapel leaders intervene in the situation with his step-father, where the positive public face of Bob Grenier was denied by destructive actions hidden at home . So, Alex's only recourse has been to publicize the abusive experiences that would otherwise remain hidden in his step-father's private life.
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Various online statements and sworn court Declarations of Alex and Paul Grenier especially address issues of child physical and sexual abuse allegedly perpetrated by Bob Grenier.
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Online statements by Tim Taylor and Alex Grenier consider concerns over"ecclesiastical corruption" and various forms of spiritual abuse of authority - both in Calvary Chapel Visalia and the broader systems context created in the Calvary Chapel franchise headed by Pastor Chuck Smith.
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As a clear indicator of public interest in these concerns and in this particular case, Alex Grenier's Calvary Chapel Abuseblog received over 3 million hits in its first three years (2010-2012).
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Grenier & Grenier v. Taylor & Grenier is a civil lawsuit that pits Pastor Bob Grenier of Calvary Chapel Visalia (California) and his wife Gayle against his step-son/her son Alex Grenier and against former CCV member Tim Taylor.
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This document contains the allegations by Bob and Gayle Grenier of defamation and other contentions against the defendants, Tim Taylor and Alex Grenier.
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"Alex Grenier, Frequent Calvary Chapel Critic, Seeks to Have Defamation Lawsuit Filed by His Pastor Father Dismissed," by Gustavo Arellano (February 11, 2013).
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Alex Grenier is its author.
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Alex Grenier Responds to Notice of Imminent Lawsuit by Calvary Chapel Visalia & Pastor Bob Grenier (October 2, 2012).
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Posted by Alex at 9:47 am
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Alex on The phone call to Chuck Smith of Calvary Chapel: Alex Joye Grenier discusses the bad dynamic in Calvary Chapel and we confront Chuck Smith live on radio
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Alex on The phone call to Chuck Smith of Calvary Chapel: Alex Joye Grenier discusses the bad dynamic in Calvary Chapel and we confront Chuck Smith live on radio
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American on The phone call to Chuck Smith of Calvary Chapel: Alex Joye Grenier discusses the bad dynamic in Calvary Chapel and we confront Chuck Smith live on radio
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Alex on Calvary Chapel Tucson buys an FM radio station for $75,000
Alex anyone who dares to say ...
calvarychapelabuse.com [cached]
Alex anyone who dares to say that "It's not Calvary Chapel's fault!
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Look around you-do you not have eyes to see and ears to listen-write a letter to Calvary Chapel Association, Petition your church leadership, Donate to Alex's Legal Fund and help to reform Calavry Chapel.
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Pastor who does have influence in the brand to stand up for Alex--there is no excuse. I don't care how long ago this took place. Alex and his brothers and his mother all need to be able to stand before their abuser to say to him what they need to in order to be restored and vindicated of the awful, terrible, horrendous years, days, months, hours, and minutes spent in being denied being heard by the church and its leader-because their abuser was and is a Pastor. For Calvary Chapel in part and as a whole to refuse to do what ought to have been done when this was first reported with the excuse that since BG was convicted, therefore, our hands are clean, is an out and out lie from the pit of hell. Since when does man's law supercede those things that needs to be investigated, judge, and discipline by the church, particularly when such behavior was done while holding a position of a Pastor?
In my mind, thinking about how far BG and CS go back with the other, I have to wonder if there is something that BG has on CS that has left Alex and his family under the bus. Hmm? Or is it just a simple case of CS possessing not an ounce of empathy for those who have been led to believe otherwise. I'm sorry, brother and sister, but even CS ought to be held for an account for white washing all of this, then acting as though Alex has victimized him instead.
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Igcognito, Alex has posted some sites that deals with spiritual abuse.
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So, hang in there and visit the sites that Alex has listed. Okay?
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If this guy hasn't realized it yet, Bob Guaglione is the top dog in this church and if you challenge him you will be black-balled as divisive exactly how Alex mentioned in the article.
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I asked Alex if it was OK to post a brief (I hope) comment on his blog relative to this incident.
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Alex promoted him to youth leader. This man is not a youth leader, an assitant pastor, or even a Bible instructor. He is simply a man who has been in our church for more than ten years who sometimes (only occasionally) assisted in children's ministry. As I said, he has been here ten years+ and never presented any problems whatsoever.
Additionally, like all of our children's ministry volunteers and staff, he was fully vetted before ever serving. He had no record and still does not until this incident.
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I have a few questions but will hold them until after Alex posts the interview, I suspect they will be answered then.
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Ron I will humbly say that I believe your comment above is filled with semantics, but you are definitely to be applauded for speaking to Alex, regardless of what your purpose is for doing so.
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But I'm glad Alex posted this article, not as a attack on Calvary Chapel (which he spinned to do so, but whatever, it's his blog) but to educate other about Holguin.
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"The vast majority of readers who read Alex's headline will think of someone with more responsibility than a teacher's aide.
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Alex, for months after we first met I encouraged you on the importance of your own personal accuracy given your call to truth, accountability and transparency of others. For your own credibility, back when you had the ear of several CC pastors, including mine.
I also learned a long time ago that when Alex Grenier sees something one way, there is no convincing otherwise.
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Pastor Write I am a long time reader of this and other blogs and Alex has been very kind to me, we have very little in "communion" in reality. I am extremely liberal, though Alex has changed my view on the second amendment issues of weapon ownership. I may never own a firearm because of family and personal issues, but I pray my neighbor is well armed if I need their help. I hope that makes some sense. As someone who sits in the cheap seats of the evangelical church, trust me Alex sits on the the 50 yard line compared to where I reside. I would offer another view, abuse is horrid, having dealt with it as has Alex.
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To ignore Alex's or anyone's complaint because it concerns someone who anyone has told you that it is not your business to be involved is a lie from the pit. You, who are a representative of the leadership of Calvary Chapel, wherever you are have a biblical mandate to step in on his behalf as well as the behalf any claim they have or are being victimized by such a one.
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4th Paragraph - last sentence :To ignore Alex's or anyone's complaint, because it someone has told you that it is not your business to be involved is a lie from the pit. You, who are a representative of the leadership of Calvary Chapel, wherever you are, have a biblical mandate to step in on his behalf of a person who claims they have been abused, no matter when it happened.
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The issues that Alex Grenier has concerning his stepfather, Bob Grenier has been put off far too long.
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You have completely missed the point of why Alex posted this.
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Ron is the same man who defended an accused abuser, when Alex was calling for someone in CC to look into the charges.
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